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Old 09-23-2003, 10:38 PM
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Street rods vs. Hot rods

Whats the differnace by definition??
It seems to me its more about attitude and how the car becomes what it will be determines what it is,right??
Seems to me a hotrod is usually a lower buck deal more backyard.Were as the parts are usually home modified and fabricated production parts.And all ideas are owner thought up.
And street rods seems more professionaly built and designed and fabricated.And use many aftermarket parts and kits.
But at what point is a hotrod a streetrod or viseverse??I've heard the definition of horsepower determining street from hotrods,but were do the 600hp 10sec capable street cars come into play.

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Old 09-23-2003, 10:43 PM
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Street rods are anything with modifications to a pre-1949 car or truck. I don't know what a hot rods definition is. Maybe Street rods are more of a cruiser, not needing performance upgrades. A HotRod would have to have perfdormance upgrades, Ahhh I don't know, now I'm confused confused: Good question though, I wanna know the answer now


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i was thinkin that.. street rods are built for the street and hotrods are built for shows and there more like not street legal.. i dunno.. just what i was thinking at the time

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Old 09-24-2003, 12:19 AM
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Right on the money -

A Street Rod is more fo' sho'. It is made to cruise, to look good, and to get ladies... and the Hot Rod is to look good, take lots of G and kick major A.

At least that's how I thought it was.
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You've opened a can of worms here. We had this discussion a year or so ago, I don't think anything was "black and white", mostly opinionated. here's Pennsyvania's legal description of street rod:"Street rod." A motor vehicle, [but not] or a reproduction
16 thereof, with a model year of 1948 or older which has been
17 materially altered or modified by the removal, addition or
substitution of essential parts and with a gross weight or
2 registered gross weight of not more than 9,000 pounds.
3 * * *
4 Section 2. This act shall take effect immediately

Hot rod, my opinion is any car modified to run better, look better, sound better (goes with h.p.), handle better. Any or all of these, done with the intention of making his or her car different and better than factory. Street rods could definetely fall into this category, a 32 coupe with a sbc is definetely a hot rodding improvement. magazines, car shows want to break them down into categories by the years, pre 48, pre 72. Pretty much my opinion is "who gives a rat's arse? If you built it, are proud of it, done as much or all the work as you can, be proud. I've seen 63 Ramblers that I wouldn't have taken as a gift 20 years ago that look pretty darn good built to "hot rod". To each his own, there's cars on this board I have no interest in, but I respect that their owners like them and are willing to make them different. I have a soft spot for anything presmog, I especially like the pre48 cars but that's what I grew up seeing at the drags and what the cool guys drove. When I get done with my 36 I'm going to work realllly hard on a gal at work with a 55 Nomad in her garage, her dad gave it to her, he's had it since new, she won't sell as long as he is alive. I think if a guy stuck with the rwd, going faster, and adding that personal touch it would be a hot rod in my book. Just my 2 cents, well maybe a nickels worth, this did get long..lol
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It was explained to me like this: A hot rod has the engine behind the front axle and a street rod has the engine over the front axle. Just my 2 cents....
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Well, I'm a little older than most on this board. When I was a teenager (in the '50's) a Hot Rod was the term usually given to any car (mostly Fords) that were built before 1940 and had a modified engine. i.e. Finned aluminum high compression heads, 3/4 - full race cam, dual exhaust, multiple carbs, etc. This also included other makes (usually Chevy's) with similar mods. Many times the fenders and running boards were also removed.

A 'Custom Car' was the term given to '49 and newer cars that had mostly body mods. i.e. Nosed, decked, lowered, frenched headlights, different grill, fender skirts, etc. These cars also usually had either an engine swap (Cad or Olds) or engine mods similar to a "Hot Rod".

Chopped tops, body sectioning, and/or channelling were done to both traditional 'Hot Rods' and Custom Cars.

Next came the factory muscle cars of the '60's and '70's. This really slowed down the 'Hot Rod' building because anyone who could make payments could now have a "Factory Hot Rod".

Now we come to what is presently called "Street Rods". Many are pre-'48 vehicles with mods similar to the traditional 'Hot Rod' but with upgraded suspension and often with many of the latest 'creature comforts'. i.e. air conditioning, power brakes, power steering. Others are actually reproductions of early (mostly Ford) body styles with more up to date suspensions, etc.

While the traditional 'Hot Rod' was often a daily driver, the newer 'Street Rods' are mostly for occasional cruising and/or going to outdoor car shows. i.e. Good Guys events, NSRA events, etc.

My opinion: Call what you've got whatever you like. If the engine has been modified to increase performance it's a HOT ROD!!!

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hot rod:
A production car that has been modified by the owner in the attempt to increase acceleration and top end speed. Although the term can be applied to any modified car, it is usually reserved for vehicles produced from 1930 to 1940's. Typically the engine is modified, and some body panels removed. Many were painted with a design of flames behind the front wheels to give the appearance that this vehicle was "hot" -- thus the name.

street rod:
A slightly modified rod (car) that will give good day-to-day performance on the streets


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Opinions are like Mustangs and....

Street rod: Pre 49

Rat Rod: Collection of working automotive parts to represent the beginning era of modified cars, mostly owned by teens and racers

Hot Rod: A modified production vehicle w/ the sole purpose of better performance.

Virtual Hot Rod: (See HRK '56 Ford truck)

Custom: A modified production vehicle with emphasis on body modifications

Pro Strret: Production vehicle that has been tubbed, tired, and is totally outrageous on the street.

Virgin Steel: A production vehicle that is over 20 yrs old and NOBODY has messed with it.

A Sleeper: A production vehicle that appears to be bone stock and not a usual hot rod piece that will get ice cream home before it melts.

A Beater: A production vehicle that has seen better days but will not go quietly

A Hoopty: The "Pepsi" generations referance to vehicles of long wheel base, mostly four doors and thier grandmother used to go to church.

Street Machine: Production Muscle car that has been taken to the next level in performance, looks, and ability to go rumpety rump.

Non-Rod: Any Citroen, Ford Festiva, 1984 Chevrolet Malibu mordor slant back, Chrysler "K" car

Disposable car: Most mass production vehicles with any Japanese writing on any sticker under the hood. (See non-rod)

Pedal Car: See Flinstones

Love Machine: Any production vehicle that causes verification of underware color.

Low Rider: A production vehicle that has the suspension altered to lower the stance of the vehicle.

Lead Sled: A 37-Mid sixties vehicle that has been altered to have the rear of the car lower than the front, mostly with a chop top, and sans chrome. Extreme body modifications are usually invovled.

Bitter Pill: Beng a married man in a mini-van

Grocery getter: Mostly but not limited to station wagons that were used before the SUV era to get the kids, dog and groceries where they needed to be.

Daily Driver: Vehicle that you use daily for the nessecities of life. (See Sheet Box)

Sheet Box: A vehicle that you are forced to drive due to various reasons that you would rather not or walking does become an option. A vehicle that has demons and it brakes down or does unexplainable things at the most unopportune moment

A Bad Ride: A tire squeling, heart pounding, wheel jerkin' maybe illegal, ride that makes you need to pee. Or, a four door with 5 guys leaving Brinco's Mexican Restaurant after an all you can eat burrito lunch

Gas Guzzler: 12 Miles to the gallon or less vehicle

Economy car: 26 miles to the gallon or more. A car given to you.

Roach Coach: A truck with canteen supplies that arrives at construction job sites to feed the grunts. 66 Impala I got busted in a LONG time ago

Bible Car: Specific Honda's (After the resurrection, when Jesus appeared with two angels to the men walking on the road. And when they were finished, they went upward toward heaven in one Accord

A Merc: A Mercury or now, a Mercedez

A Gasser: A production vehicle from 36 -48 assembled with the intent of drag racing and still be able to drive it to 7-11. (Also to include the world famous 33 Willy's, Chry Terror)

Tin Lizzy- Model T Ford

A Bone-Model a era production car

A Duece- 1932 Ford. No exceptions

Hi-boy: A Fenderless modified production car made from 1926 to 1934ish

A Pervertable: The top goes up and the bottom goes down. (see Humpback)

Chick magnet: Any vehicle that gains you notoriety with the females.

Venus Guy Trap: Opposite of a chick magnet. Works for women.

Rag Top: Any convertable vehicle

Muscle Car: Early Sixties Production vehiclen with a high HP to Body weight or HP to CI displacement rating that you dad like and your mom disapproves of. (He'll put his eye out with that thing!)


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And the correct answer is.....ALL OF THE ABOVE.

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MadSyntst nailed it...... and I can still hear the hammer ringing...
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Old 09-24-2003, 07:42 AM
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Hang in there Madd

Gee, I hope his wife lets him live!
(I was going to ask how you guys would define a Muscle Car, but now I'm scared to )

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Re: Hang in there Madd

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Gee, I hope his wife lets him live!
(I was going to ask how you guys would define a Muscle Car, but now I'm scared to )

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You need to open your eyes there Chickie...poo.

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Muscle Car: Early Sixties Production vehicle with a high HP to Body weight or HP to CI displacement rating that your dad likes and your mom disapproves of. (He'll put his eye out with that thing!)
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Old 09-24-2003, 07:56 AM
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Just for you Chickie

I editted my post to include a few others I forgot. Muscle Car, Chick Magnet, Shhet Box and Venus Guy Trap are all there
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Good job Madd, except for a major faux pas concerning the Gasser definition. Yo limited years to '36 which leaves out the most important car in the class - the '33 Willys!!

In answer to the original question, it's like pornography. Hard to define but I know it when I see it.
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