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Old 12-20-2012, 08:08 AM
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Well you can waste your money as you like.

All you need is good basic block machining. stock GM Rods resized correctly,
stock GM crank reground correctly. and the low compression dished forged pistons.
rebalancing the crank is nice.

The short block is very very simple and basic.
The blower is not hard on the short block at all.

Id even build this motor with the KB hyers with the 21cc dish.
All that is required is the biger top piston ring end gap and correct low compression ratio and correct engine tune ( timing,jetting) and decent gas in the tank.

The forged -22cc dished pistons are the same price so.....

it is detonation (incorrect tune, crap gas, fuel lean out, excessive boost, excessive timing for fuel octane-compression ratio) and way excessive rpm ABUSE (7500+rpm) that kills motors, Not superchargers.

383 stroker cranks are inherently weaker than a stock 350 crank.

Wait a minute.Why am I re-grounding a 350 crank and then why is a 383 crank inherently weaker??. Kind of lost me there.

I said blower motors are jetted richer to avoid a lean condition so they don't get good gas mileage and you told us no that isn't true. But then you said a proper tune is re-jetting for a blower motor.

I do know cams for a blower motor are usually conservative in lift and you don't want much over lap.

Howards doesn't offer all the cranks just for the fun of it:

Chev SB with BB Snout

Honestly,if it was a customer of ours,we would recommend against a cast crank to the extent where if the customer didn't want to follow our recommendations,turn down the build.

You talk about re-sizing rods,but nothing about ARP bolts,treatment of the rods like shot-pinning(sp??) or anything else.

I mean you can get a decent set of forged rods for not alot of money.Why risk it??.

I think that is my point overall. Why risk it at all??. I do think about how our posts go over the world wide web and some guy who we never talked to or posted to does something really risky and loses thousands of dollars he can't afford. There is a certain amount of responsibly we need to be mindful in the advise we give. Marginal builds falls into the category.

Remember the approach of a "open book build"??. We do need to return back to that in it will provide a margin of safety in the builds we suggest. Nothing has changed in Hot Rodding. It costs money to go fast,if it sounds too good to be true,it is likely not,you don't get something for nothing.

This quote was intended to F-Bird.Sorry Vinnie,I don't know why it worked out like this.

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1gary,I read your whole post? I was wondering why you would think I was not being responsible. I often question how someone can build an engine so cheap? I dont post as many details as tech/bogie/paintedJ/ These guys I really respect and if I state something different,especially tech,its not in the form of an argument as much as a debate.The same applies to you 1gary,I believe you offer great advice too.If I dont agree totally its just an opinion.
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1gary,I read your whole post? I was wondering why you would think I was not being responsible. I often question how someone can build an engine so cheap? I dont post as many details as tech/bogie/paintedJ/ These guys I really respect and if I state something different,especially tech,its not in the form of an argument as much as a debate.The same applies to you 1gary,I believe you offer great advice too.If I dont agree totally its just an opinion.
Vinnie-as I said I quoted the wrong person.I intended to be F-Bird.

I read and enjoy alot of your posts too.Man,I'm sorry for the miss-understanding. And I do get your point.
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