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Old 08-12-2008, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Cobra

I haven't only built CMC's kits, I was building Kit Cars since before I even joined CMC and I have helped people build a number of different cars and kits and I can say this without any reservation at all weather it is a Cobra, a Street Beast, a T bucket, a dune buggy, a Ferrari, or a 32 Highboy, if it is made of fiberglass and the customer has to put it together out of a box, they all have the same sort of problems with fit, finish, and availability of parts.
What a line of bull. Lets compare kits for a minute.

My body came with the doors hung and aligned, electric window regulators installed, bear-claw latches installed, and trunk hung and aligned. If I want fenders I can go to any one of dozens of manufactures and purchase glass or repo-steel and if they were made for a 32 Ford they will fit. My frame is a boxed 32 Ford repo and gives me the choice of bolting on a stock style front suspension with hairpins, a four bar front suspension, or a number of different IFS systems. My rear suspension choices are anything from a transverse leaf setup with ladder bars to a triangulated four bar, to coil-overs and a panhard bar, and that's just the most popular ones. And you know what??? My body and frame together didn't cost half what a StreetBeast kit runs.

Originally Posted by Grandpa Cobra
I want you to consider for a second what the name "Auto Resolution" means we all know what an "Auto" is, but "Resolution" doesn't exactly fit with the purpose of selling kit cars now does it? That is because Auto Resolution was created to resolve the complaints that CMC had lodged against it.
This doesn't make sense. Why would the owner start another company for this purpose. Given the owner's business practices to that point in time I'm sure the purpose was to continue to sell kit cars.

Originally Posted by Grandpa Cobra
I'd be a fool to even try to say that CMC didn't have complaints but not all of those complaints were CMC's fault.
It doesn't matter if an active campeign was launched, from what I read back then 99% had merit.
Originally Posted by Grandpa Cobra
Most were generated by one man who swore he would shut down CMC because CMC refused to advertise in his yearly round up of all the kit car kits available

Using various means (including a source inside CMC's Management) he was able to access CMC's computer customer base and sent official looking letters out to customers telling them that they could get their money back and inferring that they could also keep their kits as well
Once upon a time I had one of those letters sent to me at CMC by a customer who actually loved his car and wouldn't part with it for the world. The day I left CMC it was still in the small office I used to answer technical questions and more importantly solve customer complaints.

And he was also able to contact vendors and tell them not to sell parts to CMC while he was also telling CMC's customers that they would never get their back ordered parts from CMC. It was a cruel little Morbius loop in which he used expand CMC's Backlog by increasing customers demand while shutting off their supply from their vendors. As part of R&D at the time I had contacts with vendors and was told how they were threatened with legal action if they continued to sell parts to CMC. Imagine that telling customers they won't get their parts all while telling vendors not to sell CMC parts ..
That's your story. Curt Scott's version is quite different. And... if he did the things you say he did then he would be publishing from jail.

Originally Posted by Grandpa Cobra
I believe most of the myths about CMC are based upon this same vicious little man who has never published newer edition of his buyers guide since CMC jerked their ads from his pages.

I also believe or rather I know from experience that the concerns about CMC's quality can be applied equally to any fiberglass car that has to be built by a customer no matter who makes the car or kit.
Although any fiberglass body needs a lot of preparation before its ready to paint most are at least representative of the original car and allow the use of pretty much any part made for the original. StreetBeast does not. The customer is FORCED to purchase major replacement parts from StreetBeast only, thereby ensuring a future business market for StreetBeast. Good for the company but BAD for the customer.

Originally Posted by Grandpa Cobra
In all fairness in bashing CMC no one, especially not CMC's competitors, has ever said that their kits suffer from the same sort of problems , but I will and anyone with any experience building fiberglass cars of any type should admit it as well.

Which brings us back to easy to build doesn't it?

I know from actually talking to people that those that believe that they can will and that those that believe that they cannot won't and I know that the Cars that Street Beasts builds today can be built and are being built.

What I want to know is why someone that sells a bare T Bucket shell and expects the customer to supply everything else to build the car including the frame is treated with more respect than a company that tries to sell as complete a car as is economically possible.
Probably because he doesn't have a reputation for producing kinda sorta might look like the real thing if you're wearing coke bottle glasses glass bodies and doesn't lock his customers into purchasing the rest of his kit from him. His customers can go just about anywhere for parts. Can't say the same for StreetBeast.
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