[StreetbeastOptsMan]

Those where customer testimonials written to me personally

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Originally Posted by StreetbeastOptsMan

Full text: http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2006-03...march-16-2006/

Go build a Car or something , sooo just get over it !!

I am !!!!! It's one of your car's!!!!!

[Jon]

Customer testimonials have no place in wiki articles when they are placed into the articles under the auspices of first-person text. Especially when they have been inserted in there by employees of the company whose products are the subject of the wiki article.

This is because customer testimonials are easily faked, and can reasonably be considered fraudulent, especially when the companies in question have a notable history in regard to fraud.

This sort of dimestore media manipulation is akin to calling a "letter to the editor" a "retraction letter", as in your previous post. In fact, a "retraction" is typically made by the original author, to correct an error, and not by the entity that is the subject of the article. The Miami New Times allowed you a chance to voice your perspective on the situation, as are we. Neither situation constitutes a retraction.

Finally, the cancer-saints-God-Bless-Street-Beast testimonial is so sycophantic and effusive that it will probably be repeated on this board in the future, as a running joke. You might as well just have a testimonial that says how StreetBeast pulled someone's children out of a burning car, right after helping an old lady cross the street -- on the way to sing songs to the children at the local orphanage.

Your contributions are welcome in the wiki, but, obviously, the article is useless to us if it's heavily biased, or it just has testimonials that repeatedly say things like "I love Street beast...they rock".

I've already created a "Factors in favor of StreetBeast vehicles" section, and perhaps that would be a good place for you to start, possibly with some technical information on StreetBeast vehicles.

[matt167]

to add to what Jon wrote.... even if the testomonials are legit.. where are your bad testimonials? I know you have dissapointed customers, every company does... point is, you can put up the good testomonials ( On your site, not in the Wiki ). leaving the bad testomonials out, understandable.. but relucting to admit you have dissapointed customers, is being dishonest. every company has dissapointed customers

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This is one of your car's I saved,This is a picture of it when I went to get it.He wasn't one of your happy customer's. I got it at a real good deal. Oh,And this was the Fourth person that owned it,I found it at a junk yard. As you can see it look's better now.

[StreetbeastOptsMan]

If the Kits are soo bad , How come they come out so nice??

[JGK95]

Aside of a minor issue with the front passenger-side hub and lugs, we're enjoying our build right now and look VERY forward to making this thing work out really well.

Check out my build progress here!

Street Beasts '34 build starts

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Originally Posted by StreetbeastOptsMan

If the Kits are soo bad , How come they come out so nice??

Never said they was so bad!!! I said there is a better way of yall to build your car's, I can show you a better way of offering a better car.There is a lot of things that you can change on that car,And would not cost yall any more to do it.And be a lot more easier for a guy to build that has less skill levels then some of the more skilled people.Plus have a nicer car.I said it before, I like the car,I just know better ways the car should be built.I don't mean to come down on you and anyway.But every thing can be improved.Not just your cars. all things.

Yes your cars can come out right,If you work extra hard.But you shouldn't have to hate it when your finished.

And Jay you know I'm behind you all the way.

[Irelands child]

Originally Posted by StreetbeastOptsMan

If the Kits are soo bad , How come they come out so nice??

Ya know, I think your attitude has caused a significant amount of the 'so-called' problems here with the Street Beast offerings. Several very savvy folks have asked you some very intelligent questions and, quite frankly, they haven't been answered except by more attitude and evasion.

You are right - many Street Beast cars do come out looking very nice, but many of the questions and statements from a lot of these folks I noted above may have come from past experiences with your product, either as their project or a friends. Additionally, most of these folks ask questions at car shows and cruises - and I have to say that most of the answers that I've gotten and I have to assume that the others have gotten are much the same, that the build up left a lot to be desired.

Trash can your attitude, get a positive tilt to your life as it pertains to http://www.hotrodders.com/, answer the questions that have be posed to you in the past that you have conveniently ignored and you might just at least make a decent contribution to your product. This forum is seen by many many thousands of people world wide(Google it sometime) - AND YOU ARE NOT A POSITIVE INFLUENCE as purported company representative to the sale of these cars.

Jay K., go for it - you have lots of support here

Dave W

[StreetbeastOptsMan]

I believe several months ago I answered a slew of questions , about the frame , our past , several improvements we've made. but no matter what I say , you all just keep this thread going on and on . We manufacturer in my opinion the best quality Street Rod Kit on the market , 95% of all the stuff you hear about our product is from people who have never even built one of our kits. Were no different than Outlaw, gibbons , antique and collectables, we might be a little agressive in the sale , but thats why were the biggest and the best in the industry , and a major player for many years to come .

[JGK95]

Mark,

There's a whole group of Good Guys here that are behind my StreetBeasts build with my father. If you listen to the negative, then that's all you'll find. Be positive, I am. I ignore those that don't have first hand experience who like cheese with their whine. However, you should know, I do learn from and admire the guys who've been doing this for years that offer me assistance during the build.

These are the great guys.

These are the great guys that are found here.



Jay K.

[speedydeedy]

I am not trying to trash anybody and like I have said before,I don't think your cars are junk.My only question is why don't you make the car where after it is completed the body can be removed from the frame?

[StreetbeastOptsMan]

No rhyme or reason we just dont ?

[StreetbeastOptsMan]

Originally Posted by NEW INTERIORS

Never said they was so bad!!! I said there is a better way of yall to build your car's, I can show you a better way of offering a better car.There is a lot of things that you can change on that car,And would not cost yall any more to do it.And be a lot more easier for a guy to build that has less skill levels then some of the more skilled people.Plus have a nicer car.I said it before, I like the car,I just know better ways the car should be built.I don't mean to come down on you and anyway.But every thing can be improved.Not just your cars. all things.

Yes your cars can come out right,If you work extra hard.But you shouldn't have to hate it when your finished.

And Jay you know I'm behind you all the way.

For instance, make me a list

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I was told that,The doors won't work if the body is separate,Because yall weld the door post to the frame.Well I have proven that it can be done.I am speaking first hand.You can't compare your car to a outlaw.Their car's will fit on any frame.And the floor is glassed into the car from the factory.If the people who buy the car don't know how to do glass work they are in trouble.You don't have to weld all the steel structure to the frame.