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Old 08-14-2008, 10:32 AM
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So what you are saying is you could take a part from each of the other companies and build a complete 34 ford coupe without any modification to insure a correct fit to any of the parts.

I find that hard to believe however I am willing to build a such car and donate the proceeds to charity if you can get each of the other companies to donate a separate piece or pieces of theirs to the cause.

I would also need all the other parts necessary to build a 34 ford

My Cause being the Wounded Warrior project

However should I have to modify any part from any company to make it fit correctly, I would be paid for my time and services by those that insist that the fiberglass from any of the other companies is so perfect and so original that every other companies product is interchangeable with the other companies product.

The car still goes up for auction and I receive nothing from the proceeds the car sells for all money being paid to The Wounded Warriors Project.

Everyone that bets it can be done has to pay me for my time any expenses I incur in the building process and the cost of painting the completed car.

If it can be done all I ask for is the cost of having it painted and the parts to build it. All labor (except for paint and body work necessary to ensure a show quality finish) will be performed by me alone and documented via video and pictures.

Real simple
you get the parts,
give them to me
I build the car,
You also pay for the paint job
if I have to make any modifications to any of the parts you supply from other companies you pay me to build the car
all moneys from the sale of the car go to The Wounded Warrior Project
I kept telling myself I would not get involved in this pissing match. Your request is ridiculous to be honest.

As I have been sitting back and watching this, getting irritated and somewhat amused at all of it, then you post something like this.

You went from posting intelligently, to an outlandish request. Great way to lose respect.

Jason

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Old 08-14-2008, 10:44 AM
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Just to clarify, Grandpa Cobra.

We will not have any dealings with StreetBeasts, or anyone who works for them. Ever. Not in the form of any official "build", and not in the form of any involvement with any "charity".

We'll never get into any business relationship with StreetBeasts, and we'll never attach our name to yours.

You guys aren't honest, and we could never, ever trust you.

You're misleading people with the "StreetBeasts bought the molds from CMC" line, and you're not being forthright about the fact that the owner of CMC/StreetBeasts was convicted for fraud, and ordered to pay millions of dollars in restitution. You're also leveraging personal attacks against the numerous media outlets and people who worked to expose you, and to protect other hotrodders from being scammed by you.

In addition, you have a very spotty past, and, obviously, you're behaving in a manner that's extremely consistent with a shady company that's been busted for fraud on a massive scale.
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:15 AM
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So what you are saying is you could take a part from each of the other companies and build a complete 34 ford coupe without any modification to insure a correct fit to any of the parts.

I find that hard to believe however I am willing to build a such car and donate the proceeds to charity if you can get each of the other companies to donate a separate piece or pieces of theirs to the cause.

I would also need all the other parts necessary to build a 34 ford

My Cause being the Wounded Warrior project

However should I have to modify any part from any company to make it fit correctly, I would be paid for my time and services by those that insist that the fiberglass from any of the other companies is so perfect and so original that every other companies product is interchangeable with the other companies product.

The car still goes up for auction and I receive nothing from the proceeds the car sells for all money being paid to The Wounded Warriors Project.

Everyone that bets it can be done has to pay me for my time any expenses I incur in the building process and the cost of painting the completed car.

If it can be done all I ask for is the cost of having it painted and the parts to build it. All labor (except for paint and body work necessary to ensure a show quality finish) will be performed by me alone and documented via video and pictures.

Real simple
you get the parts,
give them to me
I build the car,
You also pay for the paint job
if I have to make any modifications to any of the parts you supply from other companies you pay me to build the car
all moneys from the sale of the car go to The Wounded Warrior Project


I was just along for the read but this is to much. Yes YOU CAN BUILD and car using all different manufactures parts except yours. Anybody who has ever built a car knows you will have to modify the parts to get nice fit and finish. On the other hand If I need parts for the car u sell I have to go to you and only you and then those part have to modified to fit the very car it was designed for. I would expect an X-GI to be honest...but then maybe you don't know what it takes to build a rod starting with just frame rails. JMO Tim
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That build is a bit of a stretch request, and I thought Center's was bad.

Oh well, back to the contest.
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:59 AM
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.............I'm trying to understand the basic hypocrisy of that argument so could anyone help me out here?
It's kind of comical to hear a representative from Street Beast talk about hypocrisy.

Really its very simple.....

This is a 33 Ford





This is NOT



ENOUGH SAID
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Old 08-14-2008, 12:09 PM
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It's kind of comical to hear a representative from Street Beast talk about hypocrisy.

Really its very simple.....

This is a 33 Ford





This is NOT



ENOUGH SAID
You really are clueless aren't you?

BOTH are Street Rodz!

How about Chip Foose? I guess his custom designed hot rod isn't a Ford either then?



Like I said.... You're Clueless.

It's guys like you that will be the death of the hobby from the inside out.
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How about Chip Foose? I guess his custom designed hot rod isn't a Ford either then?
No, it isn't. Certain aspects of his design were inspired by an early Ford, but it certainly isn't one. And it isn't trying to be one.
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You really are clueless aren't you?

BOTH are Street Rodz!

How about Chip Foose? I guess his custom designed hot rod isn't a Ford either then?



Like I said.... You're Clueless.

It's guys like you that will be the death of the hobby from the inside out.
Not hardly. Its companies like Street Beast that will do that.

Once again you can't make your point without assaulting me personally. If you can't argue the merits of Street Beasts based on the "quality" of the product you purchased then do everyone a favor and stay out of the conversation. Your continued attacks are getting very boring.

Also your comparison putting Chip Foose in the same category as Street Beast is totally apples and oranges. Foose designs one of a kind custom works of art where Street Beast sells mass produced poorly designed kinda sorta if your wearing coke bottle glasses wanna be street rods.

And.... you calling me clueless is a world class oxymoron.

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Old 08-14-2008, 03:18 PM
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It's kind of comical to hear a representative from Street Beast talk about hypocrisy.

Really its very simple.....

This is a 33 Ford





This is NOT



ENOUGH SAID

Actually that is a 34 Ford or at least as much as a replica as this one is...



or this one is

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Old 08-14-2008, 03:29 PM
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So what you are saying is you could take a part from each of the other companies and build a complete 34 ford coupe without any modification to insure a correct fit to any of the part?
That is not what I said at all.. I said they are true to original.. But, yes you could take the fenders, decklids, and grille/grilleshell from 1 source ( say even Speedway Motors ) and hook them to the frame/ body of another source like Outlaw, Downs, Bebobs.. Certin parts like doors may not fit from 1 manufacture to another due to chop diffrences, and some companys have lengthened doors, but I'm not sure Street Beast doors are even close to the originals, as I know the Fenders are not.
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Just to clarify, Grandpa Cobra.

We will not have any dealings with StreetBeasts, or anyone who works for them. Ever. Not in the form of any official "build", and not in the form of any involvement with any "charity".

We'll never get into any business relationship with StreetBeasts, and we'll never attach our name to yours.

You guys aren't honest, and we could never, ever trust you.

You're misleading people with the "StreetBeasts bought the molds from CMC" line, and you're not being forthright about the fact that the owner of CMC/StreetBeasts was convicted for fraud, and ordered to pay millions of dollars in restitution. You're also leveraging personal attacks against the numerous media outlets and people who worked to expose you, and to protect other hotrodders from being scammed by you.

In addition, you have a very spotty past, and, obviously, you're behaving in a manner that's extremely consistent with a shady company that's been busted for fraud on a massive scale.
Jon you have not proved that anyone was ever busted for massive fraud have already admited that you did know know that for certain and have said that I never said that we bought the molds from CMC.

And I never asked you or your website to furnish a thing, my challenge was to those posters here that are so biased against Street Beasts and their customers that they are willing to insult them and their cars every chance they get.

I figured if they were allowed to makle such a challenge of me then I should be allow to make a similar challenge in return ONLY I WOULD NOT PROFIT A DIME EITHER WAY.

I had every intention of donating every penny paid to me for my work when I proved them wrong to The Wounded Warriors Project , I just wanted to do it after the fact as the icing on the cake of my inevitable victory.
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What is the point of this thread continuing?
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Old 08-14-2008, 04:39 PM
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What a bottomless pit this conversation has turned out to be,, like a bunch of kids argueing ,, no body is gonna win guys,, give it up and get on with more important things,,
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What a bottomless pit this conversation has turned out to be, like a bunch of kids arguing. Nobody is gonna win, guys. Give it up and get on with more important things.
There already is a winner. It's the people who did a bit of research and then spoke the truth, for the benefit of this company's otherwise-uninformed potential customers.
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