[Jon]

It could also be a good cop/bad cop type of situation. He poses as a "good" whistleblower, and he proves inside access by posting the pics from StreetBeasts's office. Then, in his very next post, he says that their "legal team" is on their way to see me.

What's really fascinating is how the theme of falsified identity is carrying through this whole episode. Not just StreetbeastOptsMan pretending to be Curt Scott, or the Marc Gold/Marc Goldberg connection. Look at the Marc Goldberg guy in the photobucket pics, or in this video of him fooling tourists into thinking that he's Bruce Willis. Even in "real" life, he tricks people into thinking he's someone that he's not.

[kwhizz]

I've just gotten a very "Bad" Headache trying to keep up with Twists and Turns of this thread..............The End result still doesn't change.....Street Beast's .....Markets, Promotes, and Sells..........."Junk"...

Ken

[41willys]

"Street Beasts" are "JUNK".........Bottom line............If you don't understand that fact, then you don't have a "Clue".........

Jay..............You're "Kidding"...........Right...............It will be Interesting to see if you are still such a supporter of Street Beasts after you get a Better understanding of what you got yourself involved in........Right now you are a "Babe" in the Woods........

Hummmm!!!.......So..........I want to build a Street Rod.........Hummmmmm!!!.....Let's see........Starting with the Chassis.......Hummmmm!!!!..........

So far, with all of your posts, it has been information like this, provided by you. When have you ever dealt with one of these cars? You show one post, but yet have a few in the lounge threads, yet you seem to know so much about Street Beast. We all know they are shady, that is understood. Most of us agree that their 34's and 33's are not well liked, but can be done very nicely. It just seems you like to call them "junk" when it does not seem that you have ANY experience with them. It is always really easy to say or post things when all you really know is hearsay.

This is about their business practices, not so much the cars themselves, although at the same time it is. If that make sense. I guess I should say the majority of the topic is the business side of their company.

Jason

[cboy]

Originally Posted by 41willys

This is about their business practices, not so much the cars themselves, although at the same time it is. If that make sense. I guess I should say the majority of the topic is the business side of their company.

Point well taken. I don't know about others but my entire reason for joining in this thread was because of the unprofessional business responses from Streetbeast personel including threats to individual members and the administrator of the site.

If they had come on here, answered questions in a straighforward, professional manner, dealt with the fraud issues in an honest way, and not inflamed people with their "bust their chops" attitude, I wouldn't have uttered a peep. Instead they have succeded in turning me into yet another highly suspicious hotrodder who would go to great lengths warning people to be cautious when doing business with this outfit.

The debate about looks and accuracy of the replication are not going be a game breaker for this company. But the quality of construction and treatment of their customer base will, over the long term, decide their fate.

The explosive growth of the internet can work in a good company's favor...or to a bad company's detriment. It's not 1980 anymore. Word travels fast around here and for anyone capable of doing a little homework, company reputations are quick and easy to determine.

[Centerline]

Originally Posted by cboy

..................... The debate about looks and accuracy of the replication are not going be a game breaker for this company. But the quality of construction and treatment of their customer base will, over the long term, decide their fate.

The explosive growth of the internet can work in a good company's favor...or to a bad company's detriment. It's not 1980 anymore. Word travels fast around here and for anyone capable of doing a little homework, company reputations are quick and easy to determine.

WOW! That just about sums it up.

[carsavvycook]

Originally Posted by cboy

Point well taken. I don't know about others but my entire reason for joining in this thread was because of the unprofessional business responses from Streetbeast personel including threats to individual members and the administrator of the site.

If they had come on here, answered questions in a straighforward, professional manner, dealt with the fraud issues in an honest way, and not inflamed people with their "bust their chops" attitude, I wouldn't have uttered a peep. Instead they have succeded in turning me into yet another highly suspicious hotrodder who would go to great lengths warning people to be cautious when doing business with this outfit.

The debate about looks and accuracy of the replication are not going be a game breaker for this company. But the quality of construction and treatment of their customer base will, over the long term, decide their fate.

The explosive growth of the internet can work in a good company's favor...or to a bad company's detriment. It's not 1980 anymore. Word travels fast around here and for anyone capable of doing a little homework, company reputations are quick and easy to determine.

No one else could have explained this better.

[kwhizz]

Originally Posted by 41willys

So far, with all of your posts, it has been information like this, provided by you. When have you ever dealt with one of these cars? You show one post, but yet have a few in the lounge threads, yet you seem to know so much about Street Beast. We all know they are shady, that is understood. Most of us agree that their 34's and 33's are not well liked, but can be done very nicely. It just seems you like to call them "junk" when it does not seem that you have ANY experience with them. It is always really easy to say or post things when all you really know is hearsay.

This is about their business practices, not so much the cars themselves, although at the same time it is. If that make sense. I guess I should say the majority of the topic is the business side of their company.

Jason

Jason.....................I have been building Street Rods and involved in the Hobby since the "First" Nationals in Peoria........After building many Steel and Glass cars and using parts from Quality manufacturers and watching them "Grow" with the Sport......I have always been concerned with "Spending" Money wisely on "Quality" parts that went together fairly easily to Minimize the Dollar Investment and Maximize the "Investment" value of the finished product.......Now.......With that said......Anyone with any experience building "Quality" cars will take one look at the 33-34 Beast and run from it.........I have turned down even finishing one for a guy...because it was a "Cobbled" piece of "JUNK"..........Could it be saved or made "Very" nice......Of Course.........But at what "Value" and Effort...........
The Chassis and Suspensions they put together look like a backyard Blacksmith built them.......That's why I posted the Pictures of the "Quality" manufacturers next to the Street Beast Chassis.......The Educated Buyer would choose which one????.........The first Timer might fall for the Boiler Room Sales pitch and then it's too late.....All the Intentions are in the right place, but the first Timer won't realize what he has bitten into until it's too Late......Again......I only have experience with the 33-34.....But......That's enough

Ken

[41willys]

That is exactly the point!

I just get irritated at people, regardless of the subject, jumping in and stating things that they have zero knowledge on. For instance, the quotes I posted, what did that have to do with the price of tea in China? Pun intended.

As you all know, sure is some fishy things going on now, things went really wacko the past few days. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck.

Who is ready for the weekend? Time to get it out and play some (the car that is).

Jason

[41willys]

Well, I can and can't agree with you Ken. While it seems all will agree with the 33's and 34's being crap, again, many have been completed very nicely, as stated.

I retract my statement about you not knowing about them then. To be honest, it just seemed strange that the only time you posted anything, it was a bunch of jumbled statements about them being junk. Most realize that.

It is not about my car, I had my problems, but also expected them. I love the thing now, and it gets a lot of attention even in primer, and a lot of complements. Especially, wow that is a Street Beast. Most people are surprised that a SB can turn out good. I am fully aware of why that is, due to this thread. Also, have personally seen a 33 "Vicki" completed, but it was a lot of work for him, but turned out beautiful. I have also seen a few 34's that were really nice too, even next to steel cars, and obviously different from them.

I am 33 years old, have quite a bit of experience, from which I thank my dad. If it were not from him during the build, it would have been hectic, not afraid to admit it.

Jason

[4 Jaw Chuck]

Originally Posted by powerrodsmike

Wonder what he's compensating for with that big cigar?


I don't think he looked a bit like Bruce Willis..even with the glasses..(who the hell would want to look like him anyway?)

Thanks for saving the pics Jon, we'll have some fun with those...


Later, mikey

Actually I thought he looked more like the guy who played Ben Grimm in the movie "Fantastic Four", Michael Chiklis.




Sorry Michael, didn't want to dis-ya!

Mmmmm...Jessica Alba!

[Centerline]

Originally Posted by 41willys

.........Who is ready for the weekend? Time to get it out and play some (the car that is).

Jason

I'd love to get out in the garage but my lug nuts haven't shown up yet. (Yes I live so far out in the sticks that my local Napa store didn't even have any in stock.) So.... I'll be out in the yard moving rocks instead.

[41willys]

Originally Posted by Centerline

I'd love to get out in the garage but my lug nuts haven't shown up yet. (Yes I live so far out in the sticks that my local Napa store didn't even have any in stock.) So.... I'll be out in the yard moving rocks instead.

Yeah, that would make it hard to get things when you need them. I have to work tomorrow, but I would much rather be moving rocks at home, well, I say that now.

Jason

[powerrodsmike]

I'll bet Streetbeastoptsman got fired from Streetbeast and became Streetbeastinsider...posting all that stuff for revenge.


Or maybe Streetbeastoptsman, after reading all of the posts here, and realizing what a sham company he worked for, quit, and became Streetbeastinsider, and posted all of that stuff about SB sales tactics to make himself right with society again....

Just a thought...


Later, mikey

[MARTINSR]

Originally Posted by powerrodsmike

I'll bet Streetbeastoptsman got fired from Streetbeast and became Streetbeastinsider...posting all that stuff for revenge.


Or maybe Streetbeastoptsman, after reading all of the posts here, and realizing what a sham company he worked for, quit, and became Streetbeastinsider, and posted all of that stuff about SB sales tactics to make himself right with society again....

Just a thought...


Later, mikey

You mean after all those years as a sleezy con-artist we at Hotrodders gave him a conscience and he renounced his old ways and came back to the serve society?

HOLY CRAP, we need to get on some political forums where DC insiders discuss the topics of the day!

Brian

[StreetBeast Insider]

Originally Posted by 41willys

Well, I can and can't agree with you Ken. While it seems all will agree with the 33's and 34's being crap, again, many have been completed very nicely, as stated.

I retract my statement about you not knowing about them then. To be honest, it just seemed strange that the only time you posted anything, it was a bunch of jumbled statements about them being junk. Most realize that.

It is not about my car, I had my problems, but also expected them. I love the thing now, and it gets a lot of attention even in primer, and a lot of complements. Especially, wow that is a Street Beast. Most people are surprised that a SB can turn out good. I am fully aware of why that is, due to this thread. Also, have personally seen a 33 "Vicki" completed, but it was a lot of work for him, but turned out beautiful. I have also seen a few 34's that were really nice too, even next to steel cars, and obviously different from them.

I am 33 years old, have quite a bit of experience, from which I thank my dad. If it were not from him during the build, it would have been hectic, not afraid to admit it.

Jason

Heres one from my country when they were making them in mexico for 4 years when Hans Mueler ran the company