I am planning on building my 1st street rod. The StreetBeast kit's look interesting. Anyone have any experience/references with these? Thanks. Don
Its amazing what a slick advertising agency can do. BUT.... just like everything else with Streetbeast, the FACTS always seem to conflict with their statements. The real sad thing is that some people will fall for that crap. However most NASCAR fans I know are smart enough not to. Maybe they would have better luck advertising on the Home Shopping Network. :mwink:Irelands child said:I was watching the NASCAR truck race on the boob tube yesterday and happened to catch a Street Beast ad. It actually was quite well done, but what I caught was the announcer stating that they had been building these for over 30 years. This kinda puts their statement that they are really different company after paying their "debts" and others have purchased and are running the company
I noticed that 30 year comment in a text ad in Motor trend or one of those the other day myself. Yep, pretty tasty ads.Irelands child said:I was watching the NASCAR truck race on the boob tube yesterday and happened to catch a Street Beast ad. It actually was quite well done, but what I caught was the announcer stating that they had been building these for over 30 years. This kinda puts their statement that they are really different company after paying their "debts" and others have purchased and are running the company
Yeh right! With threads like this all over the net they would have to have a big legal team to waste their money on.345 desoto said:DEUCE,
Yea...I stuck this 21 page thread in it (H.A.M.B. board). Then they closed the thread. Maybe the Beastie Boys lawyers sent them a "Nasty-Gram"...
Looking through their site, I now know why this site is #1 on the web.345 desoto said:DEUCE,
Yea...I stuck this 21 page thread in it (H.A.M.B. board). Then they closed the thread. Maybe the Beastie Boys lawyers sent them a "Nasty-Gram"...
If you go to your user cp, select "options" and find the menu box that shows thread display options and then choose to display 40 posts per page...this thread is 21 pages long..carsavvycook said:Looking through their site, I now know why this site is #1 on the web.
Can somebody give us the 'flag'? (with no BS on it)
This is now at 56 pages, not 21 pages.
I doubt that you "just got done reading [sic]".Legal George said:I just got done reading though this whole thread as well,
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There is more ground to cover...SECTION25 said:Well, at the risk of damaging MY credibility by posting in this thread, after all, this stinks big time, I just had to be part of this, for posterity's sake.
I've read this entire thread from start to here and been totally engrossed. There's no possible way for me to cover any new ground here so I'm going to leave it at that.
Good luck Jon.
Actually I have been too busy building cars and helping customer do the same thing.41willys said:I was thinking the same thing, or they are up to something...
Jason
Glad to here you are making change's,But I just don't understand you guy's,One of you said they are closed,And one said he is making change's.So what is it?Grandpa Cobra said:Actually I have been too busy building cars and helping customer do the same thing.
Frankly I don't care what you guys write about this company, I'm personally doing my best to destroy those criticisms from within.
As for the other guy, he has been let go.
and for the record here are just a few of the changes I have made.
A set improved frame mounts for the Willys with a small block Chevy motor,
A New design for the radiator mount on the Willys (non tilt nose)
Several frame improvements to the 34 series including the addition of a clutch pedal and mount, improved running board supports, and a cleaner front suspension and other subtle changes most people will never notice.
I've also made changed to how certain piece are manufactured and assembled especially on the Speedster and Speedster C model.
In the near future sometime before Christmas I hope to have completed a new frame jig as well as a new style 34 grill that attaches from the front instead of from behind.
So while you have done nothing but talk I have been busy, and my customers know what I have done for them.
I'm glad to see you're actually making improvements. Unfortunately you'll be busy making these improvements for a very long time just to get the design up to modern standards. Now, if you could solve your parts supply problem so everyone that orders a kit gets everything and doesn't have to wait months, THAT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT!Grandpa Cobra said:........So while you have done nothing but talk I have been busy, and my customers know what I have done for them.
First off let me say that I have built enough cars of all types to say that there isn't a car out there that you can build fit and modify to suit your own taste and not have any problems with. Some people even built themselves up by boasting of how many problems they have had to overcome.Docc said:Will these changes be retroactive as support for all those folks having great difficulties wth these sub standard LONG term problems.
Sure would go a long way to cleaning up the image..otherwise it's just a market driven approach for NEW customers..
"We had crap before..but now we changed" doesn't help those stuck with the obvious (needed changes) poor design and support.
The folks that put money into your company deserve more than those who MAY put money into your company..
Or does SB think this train of thinking is flawed ?
Nice try but totally wrong. When someone takes parts and pieces from many manufacturers and assembles a car he EXPECTS a lot of mods and custom fitting will be required. When someone buys a Streetbeast (according to all the slick advertising) he should be able to assemble the car with no problems. That's IF you believe the advertising which we all know is a joke.Grandpa Cobra said:There is a underlying hypocrisy in telling me that in a hobby where people routinely modify, fit, and hand build their cars to their own standards of excellence they then complain that our cars require the same sort of modifications fitment and assemble that street rodders normally do with anything or any car they get their hands on.
Actually the term isn't "its too hard". More accurately one should say "its not worth the extra effort". Kits shouldn't need to be garage engineered. They should go together smoothly because the engineering has been done for you. That's what you're paying for when you buy a "kit". Unless its a Streetbeast where the engineering is so poor that you DO have to re-engineer most of it just to get the thing on the road.Grandpa Cobra said:And it is hypocrisy to say on one hand that you completely stripped down a 1932 whatchamacallit and redesigned it in your own image to suit your ego, but couldn't build one of our cars because it is too hard for you to build.
Spoken just like a streetbeast employee. Truth be damned just spew the party line.Grandpa Cobra said:If you examine the fiberglass street rod/kit car industry as a whole from the early sixties until today, our cars are more complete, easier to assemble, and a better value in the long run then anything out there.
Actually the Streetbeast design was based on one premise and one premise only: Lock the buyer into returning to Streetbeast for every major repair part that might be required for the life of the vehicle.Grandpa Cobra said:They were designed to be that and not a prefect exact replica of an original 1934 ford coupe down to the chicken wire and rubber roof.
What a bunch of bull. Most other manufacturers provide a higher quality more accurate product and give the buyer the option of having the doors etc. pre-hung.Grandpa Cobra said:There is a reason some other companies sell their cars with the doors and the trunks fitted and mounted, their customers couldn't complete those tasks on their own, given the methods those factories use to assemble them on their cars.
Sure you could.Grandpa Cobra said:I could if necessary rip to shreds the design of any other fiberglass kit car or street rod out their using the same exact criticism used on our cars, the only reason I choose not to is that it is not my style to bad mouth other companies, but I could.
Grandpa Cobra said:....the only reason I choose not to is that it is not my style to bad mouth other companies, but I could.
Because they fit?Grandpa Cobra
There is a reason some other companies sell their cars with the doors and the trunks fitted and mounted, their customers couldn't complete those tasks on their own, given the methods those factories use to assemble them on their cars.
Rob Keller said:Because they fit?