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Old 12-19-2005, 08:03 PM
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Strip old paint off before painting or not?

I have a guy that wants me to paint his truck a different color but the paint that's on it is still good. He wants me to go from black and red to canary yellow. What would anyone else do, strip the old off or scuff and prime the old paint and put the new right on top of it.

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Old 12-19-2005, 08:09 PM
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I have a guy that wants me to paint his truck a different color but the paint that's on it is still good. He wants me to go from black and red to canary yellow. What would anyone else do, strip the old off or scuff and prime the old paint and put the new right on top of it.
Depends on 2 things 1 - what is the mil thickness of paint on there now? 2 - what does the current paint job look like (scratches, bubbles, rock chips...)

Too much mil thickness is not good - anything over 2 paint jobs is pushing it without a good block sanding to bring the thickness down

The general rule of thumb is this - a paint job is only as good as what is underneath the top coat.
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I would do this:

As long as the underlying paint is in good condition and you are convinced that a scuff and shoot will end up with a quality job give him two prices.

One for a scuff and shoot and the other for stripping it first. Then explain with a black and red scheme underneath yellow that every scratch or rock chip will show the underlying contrasting color and that if he chooses a scuff and shoot that you don't want him whining to you later about how crappy it looks. You never know. he may decide to do the right thing and have you strip it first.
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Old 12-20-2005, 08:18 AM
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How about, WHAT IS THE GUY WILLING TO PAY? I don't care how bad it is, if the guy is not willing to pay A LOT more to have it stripped, I wouldn't strip it. I then would think hard about whether I wanted to do the job at all at that point.

Stripping is four or five times as much work (at least!) as just painting it.

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Well part of it is aftermarket pieces doors, fenders etc.... and is just factory primer but the cab is original paint. I haven't seen it yet but he says the body is good, not sure about condition of the paint. I would probably have to shoot the whole thing with a gray primer anyway otherwise I think covering black with yellow and covering red with yellow would be different contrasts. So, the scratches and nicks aren't a REAL big deal, it should be safe to use a high build primer for something like that, right What happens if you get too many coats, say 3-4 paint jobs without stripping? P.S. I told him $15.00 /hour plus materials. He's going to let me know. I can do a sweet looking paint job, but he says if it looks good he has a friend that will bring me a '69 Camaro,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I don't know if I'm ready for something of that caliber

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I would not even think about quoting anything on an old pickup until I saw the truck as those things can have an amazing bunch of nicks and dents which have to be fixed in order to do a good paint job..

I would at least figure on DAing the whole thing to get down to solid surface...

Yellow is absolutely the worst color I know of to get a good coverage so you may be up for buying some extra paint over what you may need for other colors..figure on completely priming or sealing the entire truck..

another thing ask if he wants the bed pulled so you can paint the back of the cab..looks like &$** when you look between the back of the cab and the box and that area was not painted..of course on a color change you will need to do the door jambs and such to make it look right..as well jamb it out around the hood opening as well..

If you cannot get enough to do a good job then pass..

Bout all I can think of..

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If you strip that thing be prepared to find all kinds of surprises that will have to be dealt with before repainting. If the paint looks good, I'd paint over it.
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