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Old 12-02-2012, 06:49 AM
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Here's a build CHP did a while back, SBC400 w/Vortec Heads, The Impersonator 428HP/525TQ.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:46 AM
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Here's a build CHP did a while back, SBC400 w/Vortec Heads, The Impersonator 428HP/525TQ.
Chevrolet 406 Big Block - Chevy High Performance
Read between the lines in the ref.Probe pistons??Prepackaged "deals" always has to cheap out somewhere in order to meet a low retail price.The pistons are in this case low dollar.Then the heads/cam combo peaking at 5,000 is the other case where a 400's potential isn't truly capitalized.A good self respecting 400 should be able to do much better than 1.28hp/c.i.

Cam it right and put on decent aftermarket heads or even Bowtie Vortec's.Do it once right to avoid the do-over-costs.$6,000 grand??. Then rave about it??. Where does it say anything about torque plates for a finish hone??. That is critical for 400's.I don't mind the scat rods,but the Scat crank I am not a fan of. Where does it say anything about screw in rocker studs??. Did I miss that??. I did see the promotion in the first paragraph of what 4 or 5 different products.I think you guys get my point.And that is why forums like this one is around.

There isn't one fan magazine that has spine to give a bad review of parts suppliers that buy ad space.Not one.Reading trade publications gets you closer to the truth.
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The operative word on the build up was TORQUE.

A SBC 400 cammed to make 525 lb-ft of torque at 3,500 RPM ain't gonna have astronomical HP figures. Heads are fine w/pressed studs at those RPM levels and spring pressure required for a relatively mild 0.480" lift cam.
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Cobalt-you pick up on only one thing I up objected to amongst numerous common sense issues.
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Nothing particularly wrong w/Scat- preferred over Eagle.

Forged Probe pistons aren't considered to be lower shelf.
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Cobalt-suffice to say your faith in the mickey mouse articles is amazing.LOL
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The article isn't what I'm talking about.

BTW, you seem to quote from the Engine Builders mag fairly often. Many of the articles there contain quotes directly from the manufacture reps. Not exactly unbiased.
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BTW, you seem to quote from the Engine Builders mag fairly often. Many of the articles there contain quotes directly from the manufacture reps. Not exactly unbiased.
Yes I do.Your right.I recommend people read that on line.The significant difference is it is a trades publication slanted towards people in the high performance business.You get to see a behind the scenes outlook.
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Just got off the phone w/Frank @ Coast High Performance. They torque plate hone ALL the engines they sell. Not just the high end builds.

Nothing like actually verifying things (what a concept!) instead of aSSuming.

Now, I'm not defending the car rags. Almost all of them pander to their advertisers- including Engine Builder. Circle track is one of the better mags for tech info, the rest generally suck.

What I am saying is it is up to the reader to verify things for themselves. Due diligence should be the rule not the exception.

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Old 12-03-2012, 01:33 PM
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Cobalt.All prepackaged engines priced to sell orbit around the $$$$$ and because the way business works those engines had to have low dollar parts included in them or not completely machine work.Logic prevails.

Other than the TRADE magazine Engine Builder Mag,another mag that I am no sure is around anymore was the Bracket Racing mag which had some real street articles.

Btw-I am getting to like you some.LOL.Just understand the amount of effort it take to post these long exchanges because of badly infected arthritis and diabetic nerve damaged hands. Hehe thank god for spell check.
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I like everybody here,even the people I dont like.

take care with diabetes,mu cousin died at age 33

any item we purchase,someone made a profit on it.
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I don't see why you seem to have such a problem w/that short block. While profit has to be made, forged Probe pistons, Scat cast crank and torque plate honing are not cut rate parts or operations. The bearings are King, BTW. Decent parts for a decent price IMO. Coast has been around since at least the '90s. West coast guys prob. know them better, shipping to the right coast precludes any chance of me buying from them, even if I was in the market.

Now as far as the rest of this deal, sometimes it seems to me that you glance at something then jump to a conclusion before giving it due consideration. Maybe I'm wrong- just saying what it looks like to ME. No big deal, it all comes out in the wash anyway.
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