Im about to head out and check that Richie, thnx. Does it have to be exactly 12? I removed the first plug with wire, and im getting spark, and fuel. Even changed the cap/coil assembly. Both caps were firing good less than a week ago. But still, nada. Maybe my timing is way off? TDC? I tried following the steps vizard says. Had a wire down the 1 cylinder to feel the piston going up and down, was checking the intake rocker for motion, front balancer mark was close to zero on timing tab. Then rotate the oil pump shaft so its approximate to 5's rockers/pushrods, mark and get the distributor and cap aligned, install and rotor should point towards 1. But we could never get the damn dist to sit with the pump shaft in this position, so I rotated it off pointing to 5's rockers and sure enough it finally sat down properly and pointed towards cylinder 1. But the engine just spins.