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Old 09-20-2008, 01:13 PM
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I got a late 70's camaro berlinetta today for the subframe. I am putting the subframe and rearend under my 51 ford. What was a berlinetta package ? Here are some pics. My camera is not good


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Exactly what I did with my 51......except I used a 76 Nova sub frame. I believe they are the same......worked out very well.

Word of advise....measure a million times before you cut anything.

A lot of guys cut off the frame rails and butt weld the clip. I left them on, being a truck that was going to be used as a truck, I figured it could use the extra strength.
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Berlinetta package had extra electronic features.. if any are still in the car, there deffietly worth saving. '79-'81 Berlinettas are quite rare, but what special features are in the 2nd gen berlinetta's, I do not know
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We are getting a rusty 51 parts truck from him to. It has a nice bed fenders and doors. My dad wated to use that frame to put the subframe under and then swap bodies and motors. That way if we screw up we haven't ruined the good truck
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Chevrolet dropped the LT package and replaced it with the Berlinetta package in 1979. It was basically an appearance package.

From NastyZ-28.com:
"1979 Berlinetta - Included Custom Interior, bright upper and lower grille, bright windshield and rear window moldings, dual pin stripe treatment, body color sport mirrors (D35), argent applique on rear panel, specific trim and either polycast wheels (PE1) or color-keyed aluminum wheels (N90, 14 x 7") (optional). Amberlite insulation blankets included in doors, rear quarters, roof/sail panels, behind rear seat, under package tray and under carpeting (RPO Z54 interior decor/quiet sound). Option U05 dual horns and U14 Special Instrumentation were also standard equipment"

http://www.nastyz28.com/camaro/camaro79.php
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front sub frame.........

HI,the way ive seen the sub frame installed,is fit it inside of the original frame,weld it in good (measure about 100 times...and use THE SAME ruler) some are off,then fishplate over inside of frame.
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Exactly what I did with my 51......except I used a 76 Nova sub frame. I believe they are the same......worked out very well.
The Nova is 1.5'' narrower then the Camaro.Hub to hub.. This is a 57 Chevy car I did with a camaro.(first pic).And it had a very hot big block in it.In the other one is a 58 Chevy pickup I did with a Nova.And when done right,They can still be used as a truck.
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A friend of mind did a '51 Ford with a '78 Firebird clip and a Pontiac 400, later changed to a Chevy 327. He wanted the same wheel bolt pattern on both ends, but the 'bird rear end was way too wide, so he used a '65 Chevy II rear end. He did have to move the spring perches and push the rear wheel openings outward a fraction of an inch. Looked real good, and he said it drove just like the Firebird.
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We got the subframe out yesterday evening. I cpouldn't believe how easy it was. I am going to get the rearend out later today and possibly the steering column. I got the master cylinder off yesterday. The interior is destroyed, there is about a foot of straw glass and other crap in it. I am keeping the spoiler and possibly the back window. Is there anything else Ishould get off before the camaro goes bye bye.
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cut the 1/4's off it if they are good, as well as keep the doors and the instrumentation if it's good ( it's unique to the Berlinetta )... you'll get more out of those parts at a swap meet than you would for the extra weight at the scrappers
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Old 09-27-2008, 04:29 PM
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I think that the passenger door is ok. The drivers has been hit by a tractor so has the 1/4's. The gauges are gone
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I don't know what you are doing for wiring, but I used the harness out of the Nova I got the subframe from..........Aftermarket kits were not big at the time.....and I had no money anyways......
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:13 PM
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I got the rearend, spoiler and trunck lid off as well as the steering column. I have decided to call it done.
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ummm, if it had power winders, you could get a lot of your $$$ back....
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If the dash filler panel and package tray are (or were) still good and not rusted then you could sell 'em easily. Common problem on 2nd-gens was the corners of the filler panel would rust away from windshield leaks and neither of these pieces are re-popped.

I'd cut out the tail panel sheet metal if that was still good as well - I know that this piece has recently been re-popped for the '77 & '78 Firebirds at least (at over $300 ), so a non-rusted piece could be a very good deal.

Was it a manual trans? If so, the transmission tunnel would be another good piece of sheet metal to cut out - necessary for auto-to-manual conversions.

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