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Old 12-08-2005, 10:50 AM
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Subframe swap info.

I'm currently trying to figure out how to fit a 78 camaro front subframe under the front of my 64 olds super 88. does anyone know what all i have to do to make it work? any info is appreciated.
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Measure twice, cut once!

Seriously, that's your first step -- measure EVERYTHING. Do you have the subframe out yet? Is the tread (distance between the centers of each tire) the same on the two, or close? That can be adjusted slightly by wheel offset if need be. How wide is the 64 Olds frame and the subframe (at the back of the subframe)? How far back does the subframe measure from the axle centerline (between the centers of each wheel) back?

You need to carefully measure BOTH cars and see where the frames line up. Use graph paper and make a drawing of both. Take as many measurements as you need to make the graphs (in the same scale) accurately. This needs to be done no matter waht two cars you're working with, even if a Mustang II front suspension. Some of the well known kits will have measureing instructions and be made to fit your frame.

That said, why on earth do you want to change a 64 Olds front end to a Camaro front end? Both are similar -- I see no advantage to such a swap at all. You can get all the rebuild components for the 64 olds easy enough. If you want something more modern, standard GM steering boxes will swap, so a quick ratio power steering box is almost a bolt on. Most clip changes are because the original suspension is hard to rebuild or inferior to the design replacing it. Neither of those apply in your case.
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the reason for the swap is because the frame in my olds is only set up for a 394 motor and transmission. i have fabricated some plates to bolt a conventional motor and transmission in, but i do not have the room between the framerails to run a quality exhaust(i.e. headers). with the camaro subframe i would have the clearance needed for the exhaust and have the benefit of disk brakes and power steering. the camaro subframe is practically made for my olds. everything measures out to be the same(tread width, mounting holes). the only difference is the placement of the radiator support. the camaros will be farther out than the olds. but i'm sure i can modify that.
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