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Old 05-24-2006, 09:41 PM
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I got one of my doors hung but it will only open halfway before the rear door edge bumps the body. I had no idea that spacing the hinges would affect this and thus I put them as far apart as possible in order to make the door more stable. Will this allow for entry and exit without too much trouble? One other alternative would be to reshape the rear of the door edge, but that would likely look tacky... Sorry about the cluttered "indoor" pix, I was pressed for time.

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Sounds like you need to chaulk this one up to experience and re-engineer the hinge. Next time do some mockups and test the door swings before you git r all welded up...
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Yeah well, who knew... Unfortunately (for me) there's no hotrod shop around for me to ask, so I'm pretty much on my own and mistakes will be made.

So you're saying if I move the hinges closer together (and thus further outboard) the door will open wider? Bottom line, is the extra work worth getting the door to open a little (unknown amount) more?

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Anything you do to get the hinge pivot point closer to the outside of the car will get you more clearance from the door to the body, and more swing. You can also move the pivot back away from the opening, that would get you more swing if the "hook" part of the hinge will allow it The body curvature messes up alot of people when they start moving things around. I hate to say it, but it looks like that door doesn't open enough.

I always plot out my positions by using cardboard cutouts and then test them by tacking the hinge in place with scraps before I do any final fabrication of hinge boxes. Or just stick to the original spacing if I am swapping the stock hidden type hinge from front to back. Those hinges you used will let a door swing a fair amount if you put them in the right place.

I think I would move the bottom hinge up, and both of them outboard a little if I were you. Watch out if you move the upper hinge out too far that you don't get in the way of your window channel. You can bend the hinge some to help with that. mikey
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Are you using offset hinges?

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Are you using offset hinges?

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They're homemade from E-Bay plans, but the hinge "bar" is basically a 90 with 2" on the inner end and 10" on the door end. I did need to "offset" the top bar about the width of the bar (3/8") to keep it even with the inner door skin.

Personally, I don't think it'll be worth the effort of moving them. I think I'll be living with the 45 degree door opening swing... Besides, there's not much on the inner skin to weld a "pocket" to if you look. The most I could move them would be an inch toward the center, prolly not enough to justify the work.

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It's been posted here many times before, but this how-to is a pretty good tutorial:

http://www.suicidedoors.com/how_to/2000-daily.php

To make the part that attaches to the door sit deeper, all you really need is some "U" channel you can weld in.

Also, looking at your pictures, it looks like the top and bottom hinge are out of alignment? Or rather not in the same "plane". If the pivot point is different, that's not going to help matters either.

Finally, a suggestion: weld some support on that inner door skin. It WILL flex over time if you don't and the door will sag.
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It's been posted here many times before, but this how-to is a pretty good tutorial:

http://www.suicidedoors.com/how_to/2000-daily.php

To make the part that attaches to the door sit deeper, all you really need is some "U" channel you can weld in.

Also, looking at your pictures, it looks like the top and bottom hinge are out of alignment? Or rather not in the same "plane". If the pivot point is different, that's not going to help matters either.

Finally, a suggestion: weld some support on that inner door skin. It WILL flex over time if you don't and the door will sag.
Thanks for the link. The hinges are definitely in the same "plane", that's the one thing I've done right! I have a piece of 11/32" drill rod (fits perfectly through the hinges) that I install, then I welded a piece of 1/2" x 1/2" x 1/8" angle between the hinges, then install & weld the hinges to the pillar, then remove the rod. Everything is in perfect alignment. Finished the other side today!

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