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Old 01-16-2003, 05:24 PM
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I have a 327ci with iron 64cc 402 heads. I'm planning on adding a "RPM" high rise dual plane intake and topping it off with a 625cfm Edlebrock carb. I'm running a 350 trans with a stock converter and 3.07 gears.

I need to pick out a peppy cam for a steet driven 54 Chevy.

Any suggestions? What about Summit? Any experinces out there? Who really makes their cams?

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Never had a Summit cam.........

I suggest contacting Crane, Comp Cams or the cam grinder of your choice and having them make a cam selection. They WANT you to be happy and they are professionals...... they will get it right.


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I also wanted to mention that I'm running iron exhaust manifolds. I plan on adding some headers later.

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Im running a summit cam in my 302 right now. Well not literally 'right now' . Part # SUM-K3601 - 218/228 duration @ .050", .471 lift. I have no complaints.
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Summits cams along with most other white box or private label cams are ground in Spring Lake Michigan, on automated machines.
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Summit 1102 would be a good one for a little bit sporty street driving
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got a chevelle from a drag racer 5 years ago, (god how time flies) who always got his cams from summit. the car was fast as hell, ran on regular, went rumpity rump rump, got no idea what the grind was tho
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I've run several Summit cams over the years, in Oldsmobiles and Chevys and have never been disappointed. Right now I'm running a Summit 214/224 grind with cheap stamped 1.6 ratio rockers in a "bargin basement" smog headed two bolt 383. The motor has the sweatest idle with just the right amount of "rump" to it (old farts like me don't like too much rump). Plus, the auto (81 Camaro) has very good street torque. Incidently, I run shorty headers because old farts also don't like things hanging down. I believe that with your "small chamber" heads and at least a free flowing stock dual exhaust system, you'll be quite happy with that same cam and the best part is that it's less than a hundred bucks delivered to your door with lifters! Good luck
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54, Im running a 327 with 462 heads, a Bowtie dualplane high rise, 700R4, and a 308 rear. My cam is a Crane dual pattern, which is an improved 300HP, 327 Vette cam. Smooth idle and a great cruising combo, but if you want "peppy", you probably will have to go to a 3.56 rear or bigger. Don't think a "Loper" cam will do that for you with the 3.07.
Also, I can't find any info on your 402 heads. Sure that would not be 462 and if so post the entire number because there are two 462 listed for the 327 (3767462 plain Jane and 3890462 camel hump with 161/65cc port volumes)?

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[quote]Originally posted by Deuce Roadster:
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Never had a Summit cam.........

I suggest contacting Crane, Comp Cams or the cam grinder of your choice and having them make a cam selection. They WANT you to be happy and they are professionals...... they will get it right.

This is NOT a slam on the qaulity of Summit cams....I just believe that the more popular cam grinders will have a bigger variety of profiles to choose from and the knowledge to select what you need for your combination and NOT just sell you something the boss told them to push out the door to a first time low priced customer.


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I don't think anyone took it as a slam. You never used a summit cam and answered honestly. Those of us that have used summit cams with good luck have also responded. I think ALL we did a good job answering 54 Chevys questions.
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I've used several Summits my last 350 had the 214/224 grind(K1103)mine was actually a TRW with the same specs.It ran a 305 headed 350,15:3 ET w/2.73 gears and 14.4 w/ 3.42s.Nice mild lope.I've also installed the Summit brand K1104 thats a decent cam,although I don't personally recomend strait pattern cams for SBC w/ stk heads.I've install the K1102 in a freinds car 327 w/ 305 heads,peppy low torque cam,smooth idle.And also had a freind with this cam in a 305,which was peppy for a 305.
For your set up I'd say the K1102 or K1103 with your car as is.Or the K1105 with a better gear like 3.73.This cam will prolly like a little stall speed too,but I would think it would tolerate a stk conv.
You have headers right??

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Thanks for the great feedback! I think I'm going to go with the Summit K1103 or the K1104. What penalty could there be for a touch too much cam? Is it better to go conservative? Its so easy to go nutts and go for a big one. <img src="graemlins/evil.gif" border="0" alt="[evil]" /> Where do you draw the line on pushing the envelope? And I do plan on letting the folks who design this stuff steer me down the road to success, I just wanted the get the collective experiences from some guys I've grown to respect.

Trees: The heads are double hump 3890462. I just had them rebuilt with new guides, teflon seals, new valves, and hardened exhaust seats. I'll be running 1.5 roller tip rockers. I've hear they really help reduce side loading the valve stems.

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54 better to go a little small than a little big for a driver.
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The 1103 seems the much better cam out of those two, almost identical power more torque less revs
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