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Old 10-23-2002, 10:01 AM
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Question Summit cams

Anyone here running a Summit cam or heard anything about them? I was talking over at <a href="http://www.Moparchat.com" target="_blank">Moparchat.com</a> and they are seem to be telling me to get a cam from Hughes Engines. Well, the 224/230 Summit cam comes with lifters and is $78 while the Hughes' cam is $152 without lifters. The Hughes was designed around the Mopar engines, but can it really be that much better?
This is a low-buck build up and I really don't want to waste my money if the Summit cam will work just fine!! <img src="graemlins/pain.gif" border="0" alt="[pain]" />

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Find out who actually makes the cams for Summit. You never know, could be great and could be junk.

I am sure they would tell you if you call for product info.

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From what I've heard in the Pontiac world, the Summit cams are good as anyone elses. there are only actually 3 or 4 TRUE cam manufacturers. Most of the name brands buy from few sources and put their logos on them.
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I've always heard that there are only a few (3 or 4) cam manufacturers also, kind'a like the lifter thing. It would be interesting to know who these companies are.
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I haven't heard any complaints from the summit cams. I know of two people running them now!! But if you can find one with the specs and duration for your application I would go for it. As long as your're not trying to build a hardcore racing motor it should be fine. Most of summit cams don't have high valve lift so spring changes normally aren't required
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Well, it's $78 for a 224/230 cam, hydraulic lifters, and I believe lube. This is compared to the Hughes cam which is $152, plus another $60 for lifters, and $100 for springs. Or that could be the other way around...... Anyway, this is a low buck and relatively mild build. I think it will hold up okay.
Thanks for the input guys!
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most of the street hydraulic lifter cams are ground in the same place a factory in spring lake michigan then sent out under over thirty different brands including all the ones you people have mentioned, oh the power of advertising , ours is better than yours or his etc. when they ARE ALL GROUND IN THE SAME PLACE!! they change the specs around by measuring different ways, at different points or rating them with different rocker ratios, etc. i've been there and seen them many times.
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My 350 sbc supposedly has a summit cam in it. 510 lift. The motor puts out a lot of horsepower, (in my view), of course this is because its consistently put together. But the Summit seems to do its job nicely.

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I have the greatest respect for Summit parts. I wouldn't hesitate a second on getting one of their cams if it met my specs. Now if they could just get Powuck to win a race or two!
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I used to have a summit cam in my mustang but swithced to a bigger one. The specs were, 218/228@.050 and .471/.471 lift. The cam, in my opinion worked great, good low end torque and upper horsepower. I actually gave the cam to a friend of mine who has a 68 GT/CS and he really is satisfied with the power and better yet, it gave him 18mpg still. So...go for it.
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Nothing wrong with them, but for competition you would be losing out. Cams are built and designed for specific purposes to suit certain strengths and weaknesses of an engine and unless your racing do you really need another 10 HP at XXXX rpm?
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Thanks for the info guys! I was thinking that for a mild build up, even pieces of crap have the potential to hold up! :p Anyway, as long as there are some of you who enjoy or have enjoyed the Summit cams, I'll probably just get one of those. It has a good duration and should give me some decent power. I'll end up getting a decent set of springs, but I need some recommendations on those. Anyone got any ideas?
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Go to Summit racing online and select the cam you want. Under the tech info they will have recommended parts, including springs. They've taken the guess work out of it and even given you the correct part number.
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Hey cuda, I'm running the same exact cam mustang66 mentioned in my Mustangs 302. I chose that one mainly because with stock heads I wanted to stay below .500 lift. I decided to try summits cam because of the price and the fact that I have always had good luck with any other stuff purchased through them. I haven't had any problems with the summit cam or lifters and am very happy with it. The cam mentioned has worked out very well for me. My engine is very responsive and still maintains enough vacuum at idle to operate the slew of vacuum operated garbage in the old Ford.
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Last winter i did a 350 build up for my 71 impala, i installed a summit brand dual pattern cam, i love it, no problems yet.
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