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Old 08-10-2011, 09:59 AM
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Summit short blocks any good?

Getting ready to put together a 350 and I dont have even a donar block.

$1990 for an assembled balanced short block with a Scat crank from Summit.
Be fun to scrounge around and put one together but by the time i buy a block, rotating assembly, have block checked, pay for machine work.....
i am at $1900.00.
So far I have had good luck with Summit. Never bought a short block from them though????

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Old 08-10-2011, 10:28 AM
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Its a gm block with a scat rotating assembly. Sounds good to me
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Its a gm block with a scat rotating assembly. Sounds good to me
Sarcastic or serious Bigdog?
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:48 AM
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Hahaha i was being serious. Gm and scat are both good.
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Those are an excellent buy, well recommended
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Getting ready to put together a 350 and I dont have even a donar block.

$1990 for an assembled balanced short block with a Scat crank from Summit.
Be fun to scrounge around and put one together but by the time i buy a block, rotating assembly, have block checked, pay for machine work.....
i am at $1900.00.
So far I have had good luck with Summit. Never bought a short block from them though????
383 not 350
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383 not 350
Agreed, 383, all its gonna do is make more power across the board.


Who assembles Summits motors?
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Who assembles Summits motors?
I guess to me it wouldn't make a difference on a short block - I would take it apart and check clearances and replace many of the fasteners with ARP as I did with my new SB Ford crate motor from Ford (no problems found!! )

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According to Summits website, BluePrint Engines is the manufacturer, ane they dont seem to have a very good rep in handling warrenty claims.

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Old 08-10-2011, 08:09 PM
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Summits branded products are good they have the name that forces the vender's to supply quality. Do they have the finest finish on some parts no, but they fit and are very functional. I will consider the Summit branded part if the application it is being used for will be a good fit.
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Summits branded products are good they have the name that forces the vender's to supply quality. Do they have the finest finish on some parts no, but they fit and are very functional. I will consider the Summit branded part if the application it is being used for will be a good fit.
I agree about summit branded parts, but these engines are not summit branded, they a BluePrint Engines sold by Summit.
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I read through a few of those links and the one thing that stands out to me it that it was not Summit that was dealing with the the blue print engine builder.

Do not take this the wrong way cause bad quality is just that. Saying that I believe that they will, the engine builder be more inclined to step up to the plate having Summit as a seller of their engine. That would be because Summit has a huge footprint and that means volume to that company.

As one who is active in this car game I can say this there are a few folks that have no business with a wrench in their hands. Buy these products cause the TV show said it was a BOLT's right on kind of thing, go out to their cars, first time it does not fit just right grab the biggest hammer or a long pri bar and force things in place. Same goes for engines, buy a low buck engine and try to run the thing in top fuel. All I am saying is that to really know you would need to be there, there are three side to every story, the customers, businessman and the truth.
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I read through a few of those links and the one thing that stands out to me it that it was not Summit that was dealing with the the blue print engine builder.

Do not take this the wrong way cause bad quality is just that. Saying that I believe that they will, the engine builder be more inclined to step up to the plate having Summit as a seller of their engine. That would be because Summit has a huge footprint and that means volume to that company.

As one who is active in this car game I can say this there are a few folks that have no business with a wrench in their hands. Buy these products cause the TV show said it was a BOLT's right on kind of thing, go out to their cars, first time it does not fit just right grab the biggest hammer or a long pri bar and force things in place. Same goes for engines, buy a low buck engine and try to run the thing in top fuel. All I am saying is that to really know you would need to be there, there are three side to every story, the customers, businessman and the truth.
I have used a pretty good small shop engine builder through out the years and because of your reply I AM Going to support him!! A little more cash but its real people and not big Busness. THANKS
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I'm right with Ireland on this one, if I EVER bought a complete short block from anyone I know I would tear it down to find out just what kind of parts were used. Way too many horror stories of different bore, main and rod bearing sizes. To the OP, find a good reputable LOCAL engine builder, discuss your needs and have them build the complete engine for you, including breakin tim and tuning time.
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The Scat forged 383 engine kit is less than $1500 from Summit, Id go that route and find my own block and a local machinist. Between shipping($250-300 truck freight) and Blueprints assembly cost($490), you would have around $750-800 to pay someone local to machine and assemble your motor(if you dont want to assemble it yourself.)

The cast crank Scat 383 kit is under $1100, so depending on power level expected, you would have another option.
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