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synthetic enamel

Im painting my car with synthetic enamel and I bought the primer-sealer that goes under it.Do you use hardner in the primer or just in the topcoat?

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Read the P-sheet. Some sealers don't need an activator. Need more information to better answer your question. What brand sealer is it.
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john deere buff primer-sealer
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Synthetic enamel is the bottom of the paint chain.
It's far less durable than acrylic enamel which most won't use.
You'd be better off using anything instead of synthetic.
As far as I remember, synthetic enamel can't use a hardener,
that's why acrylic enamel replaced it, acrylic enamel can use a hardener.
I thought that went away in the early 70's.
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I bought the paint,the primer-sealer,the reducer,and the hardner,all off the same shelf,all the same brand (it's the one we're not allowed to mention on this forum anymore) J D B B
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If it's Kirker synthetic enamel, it DOES use a hardener.
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No its made by Valspar I know the paint gets hardner,what I want to know is does the primer-sealer get hardner or just reducer?
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The JD paint is made by sherwin williams if you can find a paint store that sells SW or Martin Senour they can hook you up.
Unfortuntly Ive sprayed several gallons of that JD paint restoring tractors and you will get about 4 months before that crap starts to die even with the hardner.
IMO its a waste of time and energy spraying that stuff.
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Sorry to differ with you,but i've had e-mail conversations with Valspar about this product and they produce it for JD.And there seems to be a lot of people on this forum that has used it and loved it.Type in blitz black for a search and you will see what I mean.All I want to know if if I'm to put hardner in the primer-sealer or not.
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yragat, My first reply was to the wrong post - I have used that enamel on equipment rebuilds but never on a car or truck. It does indeed need that hardener or as was pointed out it will not last long at all. With the harder however this stuff looks darn slick if applied properly and will hold up surprisingly well, I still would not consider it for a vehicle unless it is just a beater.
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Sorry to differ with you,but i've had e-mail conversations with Valspar about this product and they produce it for JD.And there seems to be a lot of people on this forum that has used it and loved it.Type in blitz black for a search and you will see what I mean.All I want to know if if I'm to put hardner in the primer-sealer or not.
I would have to say... E-mail the manufacture. Apperently you already have their address. You probably would of already had your answer.
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yragat, My first reply was to the wrong post - I have used that enamel on equipment rebuilds but never on a car or truck. It does indeed need that hardener or as was pointed out it will not last long at all. With the harder however this stuff looks darn slick if applied properly and will hold up surprisingly well, I still would not consider it for a vehicle unless it is just a beater.
Do I use hardner in the primer-sealer also?
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What is the primer ??? do you have a part number.

Valspar makes a lot of products.

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What is the primer ??? do you have a part number.

Valspar makes a lot of products.

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Its john deere buff primer sealer JD#TY25659 there is a # in top of the can (might be valspar#) 6372004345 Thats all I have
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