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Old 04-24-2013, 10:55 AM
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tee's 68 firebird

I just bought a 68 firebird shell, also bought a 1970 firbird engine (seperate). The engine is on a stand ready to get cleaned up. What should be the first step of my restoration???? First car I am restoring and want it to be right. ANY INPUT WOULD BE APPRECIATED!!

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Old 04-24-2013, 02:44 PM
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Very vague question.....You say shell...is that with the subframe?..Fenders?.....rear end?....Interior?....Other parts?......Does it come with a title?
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Old 04-24-2013, 04:26 PM
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Most of you guys start at the wrong end of the car. Determine what you want the car to do for you (street car/highway car/daily driver/once a week down to the Sonic to bullschitx with the boys/drag race/street and drag race/whatever), then start at the differential with the proper gears, posi (Auburn/Detroit), suspension (stock / multi-leaf / stock rebuilt with poly bushings / ladder bars / 4-link), then wheels and tires. Once you have the rear buttoned up, move toward the front and install subframe connectors. Then it's time to be thinkin' about a rollbar if the car will see any drag strip action. Then, finally on to the motor/trans/converter.

I know this is not what you wanted to hear and I'm bettin' we'll never hear from you again. Alas, I do what I can do for you guys.

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Old 04-24-2013, 04:56 PM
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Deciding the cars purpose is important. You would not do a Concours restoration on a car that was going to be driven to sonic or occaisionally to the track, on the street etc. It would be self defeating as the first scratch you got on that $10,000 paint work (just the paint no extras) would be painful to say the least.
My guess is you want a nice clean daily driver with some good performance and street manners.
We can help. Just come back when you get a chance.
When it comes to the motor, its obvious you arent worried about a concours resto as you wont have a numbers matching engine anyhow.
I wouldnt build the 350, a building a 400 or 455 costs the same amount. A 350 isnt a bad motor by any means.Just cant make the power with the 350 that a larger displacement will make. If the motor runs then just clean it up , paint it nd set it in. A running engine is nice, it makes moving the car around a lot easier.Not to mention more fun.
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Most of you guys start at the wrong end of the car. Determine what you want the car to do for you (street car/highway car/daily driver/once a week down to the Sonic to bullschitx with the boys/drag race/street and drag race/whatever), then start at the differential with the proper gears, posi (Auburn/Detroit), suspension (stock / multi-leaf / stock rebuilt with poly bushings / ladder bars / 4-link), then wheels and tires. Once you have the rear buttoned up, move toward the front and install subframe connectors. Then it's time to be thinkin' about a rollbar if the car will see any drag strip action. Then, finally on to the motor/trans/converter.

I know this is not what you wanted to hear and I'm bettin' we'll never hear from you again. Alas, I do what I can do for you guys.

I wish more of my customers understood their car is a SYSTEM. Usually I get 'well I put 40-grand in the motor, 10-grand in the paint, 5-grand in the interior and another 3500 into the suspension. Im hopelessly over budget and I have a peg leg rear with (insert race ring n pinion here) and my wife wont ride in it unless i can cruise at under 2200rpm. Ive got 1100 bucks, can you build me a trans?
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I wish more of my customers understood their car is a SYSTEM. Usually I get 'well I put 40-grand in the motor, 10-grand in the paint, 5-grand in the interior and another 3500 into the suspension. Im hopelessly over budget and I have a peg leg rear with (insert race ring n pinion here) and my wife wont ride in it unless i can cruise at under 2200rpm. Ive got 1100 bucks, can you build me a trans?

I'm sorry, I was laughing when I read your post, I used to get the guy that would tell me....I've got $30K in the Engine, $12K in the transmission, $6K in the Rear End, $10K in the suspension, $20K in the interior...and you want 20K for body work and a paint job...are you nuts, I haven't decided on my $15K wheels and tires yet.

Probably the first things I'd ask the OP is, what do you have, what do you want, how much is your budget and are you planning on doing anything yourself. If your going to farm a lot of the work out...chances are your budgets off...Especially if you want something between a show on Sunday drive the wheels off of it on Monday...again, chances are your budgets off.

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