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Here is how I set up an engine to start, when the distributer has been out.
1. Rotate the engine in its normal rotation until number one cylinder is before its initial timing point, about 10 degrees before firing. If you go too far, do not back up, go forward almost two more times.
2. Put the distributer in. The rotor should be pointing somewhere just before number one tower on the cap. You will have to know what direction your distributer rotates. Remember, with a V-8 engine you only have 45 degrees of distributer rotation between each cylinder firing.
3. With the distributer in, the points should be closed.
4. Now rotate the engine to the firing point. The points should just open, when you reach the firing point. The distributer is very close to the right place, if you can make the points close by gently rotating the distributer rotor backwards, and just barely moving it forward makes the points open.
Here is how to tell if the points are open or closed:
Get a test light, and hook it between ground, and the coil connection that goes to the distributer. Light off, points closed. Light on, points open. The light will not be as bright as hooking it directly to the battery.

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Here is how I set up an engine to start, when the distributer has been out.
1. Rotate the engine in its normal rotation until number one cylinder is before its initial timing point, about 10 degrees before firing. If you go too far, do not back up, go forward almost two more times.
2. Put the distributer in. The rotor should be pointing somewhere just before number one tower on the cap. You will have to know what direction your distributer rotates. Remember, with a V-8 engine you only have 45 degrees of distributer rotation between each cylinder firing.
3. With the distributer in, the points should be closed.
4. Now rotate the engine to the firing point. The points should just open, when you reach the firing point. The distributer is very close to the right place, if you can make the points close by gently rotating the distributer rotor backwards, and just barely moving it forward makes the points open.
Here is how to tell if the points are open or closed:
Get a test light, and hook it between ground, and the coil connection that goes to the distributer. Light off, points closed. Light on, points open. The light will not be as bright as hooking it directly to the battery.
This might not be a big deal to people that know cars and engines, but when you say the rotor should be pointing towards number one tower, make sure you tell them where you are looking from. If they don't know and are standing in front of the car # 1 is at seven o'clock, but if you are sitting in the car it is 180 degrees. It just saves you from pulling your hair out if you are telling someone on the phone, and he doesn't know , and you don't say anything.

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This might not be a big deal to people that know cars and engines, but when you say the rotor should be pointing towards number one tower, make sure you tell them where you are looking from. If they don't know and are standing in front of the car # 1 is at seven o'clock, but if you are sitting in the car it is 180 degrees. It just saves you from pulling your hair out if you are telling someone on the phone, and he doesn't know , and you don't say anything.

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Those directions are not correct either. Step 4 is wrong the others are marginalaly correct.
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Those directions are not correct either. Step 4 is wrong the others are marginalaly correct.
Chet Are you saying what I posted is wrong, or what Danielc said was wrong.

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Maybe something is lost in translation. By doing the above steps, I have always been able to get an engine to fire. It might have needed some fresh gas dumped down the carb, but it has fired.

If you are not sure, you can always disconnect the plug wires at the plugs, ground them, except number one, put a spark plug in that, where you can see the gap, and again turn the engine forward by hand, If the distributer is set right, number one should fire just as the timing for firing passes under the pointer.
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#1 is at 7 o'clock? not on an SBC.. when you standing at the front of the car, #1 is somewhere around 5 ish.

but that's just the accepted standard, you make any tower you want #1 as long as you wire it correctly

I never seem to be able to account for how much the rotor is going to rotate as it drops down into the cam gear.. but it's not usually a big deal. just takes a few tries to find the sweet spot sometimes.

i've been very happy with the engine I built myself.. I've had no reason to take anything apart on it now for almost 3 years and roughly 30,000 miles :>
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#1 is at 7 o'clock? not on an SBC.. when you standing at the front of the car, #1 is somewhere around 5 ish.

but that's just the accepted standard, you make any tower you want #1 as long as you wire it correctly

I never seem to be able to account for how much the rotor is going to rotate as it drops down into the cam gear.. but it's not usually a big deal. just takes a few tries to find the sweet spot sometimes.

i've been very happy with the engine I built myself.. I've had no reason to take anything apart on it now for almost 3 years and roughly 30,000 miles :>
You know we really have held this thread hostage long enough. It is suppose to be about a battery tender, not timing engines.

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Chet Are you saying what I posted is wrong, or what Danielc said was wrong.

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No Daniel but as he stated it may just be a translation issue. Some of teh steps, especially 4 make no sense.
This thread is not the place for it anyway so lets just move on
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yeow... not sure where my brain was when I typed that!!

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