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Old 12-10-2008, 09:15 PM
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For those of you who have never seen a Hybrid start.

The first time one of these Honda Hybrids came into the shop we all stood around it with the hood open stairing while someone turned it on and off. It is so bizare, the gas engine is started by the big electric motor that powers the car when the gas engine is off. So it has no "starter motor" whine, it doesn't "crank" until the gas engine starts. The gas engine just "runs", one second it is not running, the next second it is.

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Old 12-10-2008, 09:19 PM
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Never seen one yet...
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:06 PM
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That's neat. Thank you.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:12 PM
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The video sucks, I didn't realize how short it was.

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Brian,I hope you took it for a ride.Those hybrid accords are not slow.
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Hybrids are very interesting cars. Im not sure about that honda but the ford hybrids electric motor under braking conditions becomes a generator as well. The transmissions are neat as well. The rpms stay steady but the car keeps accelerating.
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Old 12-11-2008, 07:16 AM
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A friend has a Prius. Just turn the key, wait a second, step on the accelerator, and the car just silently pulls away - no engine sound at all. Almost spooky when you see it the first time.
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Old 12-11-2008, 07:41 AM
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Hybrids are very interesting cars. Im not sure about that honda but the ford hybrids electric motor under braking conditions becomes a generator as well. The transmissions are neat as well. The rpms stay steady but the car keeps accelerating.
"Regenerative braking" this is a pretty basic electric car function. Here is a chat about it..http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=11142

Basically, in an all electric car, you have no "back pressure" when you take your foot off the accelorator and it will just coast, not very safe. So with regenerative braking, not only do you have some "back pressure" to slow you down like with a gas engine, you are charging the batteries with the very componant that drives the car!

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Old 12-11-2008, 07:46 AM
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Brian,I hope you took it for a ride.Those hybrid accords are not slow.
Oh yes, I have driven many of them, electric, INSTANT torque. It has ALL the torque it will ever have at 1 RPM, darn tooten they scoot. I have always liked the idea of an electric car and thirty years ago thought for sure I would have made a few by now, but alas, no.

I did have the good fortune of working at a shop where we did the body work for a nearby Saturn dealer who had the contract with GM to service and sell the EV-1 GM's full on Electric car that they had in the late 90's. They were very cool, I wish they hadn't killed the program you will only see them in a few museums now.

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Old 12-11-2008, 11:21 AM
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Took a Malibu hybrid out for a drive the other day. Didn't notice a difference other than the extra gauges moving around, reminded me of a stereo with gimmicky eq lights bouncing.

I guess the electric component just assists the gas. The gas engine never stops running. Didn't really seem worth the price tag. I will have to try the Honda, which sound more efficient.

Either way i don't think electric is the way to go. Maybe we are paving the way for a break through bu the batteries involved and mechanical complexities don't seem to adequately offset the fuel savings.
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They have a regular starter also.

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...8MITSUBISHI%29

What about that price?


In 2006 we had a customer complain of a noise at 71-74 MPH from the trans.When I called tech line,I mentioned that I was really surprised at the performance of the accord.
He told me that they built the accord for more performance and not so much for the mileage.They also had a lot of customer complaints about fuel mileage,which I guess is why they discontinued the hybrid accord.

The honda hybrids run on the gas engine and use the electric motor for more power when needed.
The gas engine will shut of when you are stopped and automatically use the electric motor to start the gas engine as soon as you take your foot of the brake.
The accord had a hybrid ac compressor that was also electric to run the ac when setting in traffic.
The civics had problems with the cvt transmission.I guess I have put at least a dozen or so start clutches in them.
I like them but..................................let me see,I think the starter for my camaro was about 35$.
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