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Old 09-02-2011, 06:27 PM
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Tie rod collar safety factor.

How much tie rod thread needs to be within the tightening collar to retain a reasonable safety factory when adjusting for alignment.

The first photo shows how far I had to adjust in order get the passenger side wheel into alignment. The arrow indicate the end of the exposed thread. There is 15/16 inch of thread within the collar on each end. In the second photo I slid the tightening ring to match the end of the tie rod thread to give you an idea of how much thread is in there. I will be able to tighten the rings firmly over the threaded ends on each end but is this enough rod to be safe.




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The rule I was always taught was that you had to engage equal to 1 dia. ex. , 1" bolt =1" thread. I think I'd fab some longer unsplit sleeves w/ jam nuts . Just seems those split sleeves would be a little flimsy. my .02


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Sounds about right, but I would also ensure the clamp was clamping a threaded portion.
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The rule I was always taught was that you had to engage equal to 1 dia. ex. , 1" bolt =1" thread.
The tie rod is 7/8" and the enclosed thread is just a hair more than that. So I may finish it up this way. But I like the idea of a longer sleeve and jamb nuts. Just gotta find somebody locally that can make one up for me (I don't have the facilities to do the right and left hand threads at that size).

And I'm with you NovaSS, I just slid the clamp down the sleeve to show the end of the tie rod within the sleeve. They'll be clamped directly over the threads.
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What about "sleeving" the split -sleeve?


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How much tie rod thread needs to be within the tightening collar to retain a reasonable safety factory when adjusting for alignment.
Steering and its components should be much better than "Reasonable".

Threaded connections have maximum strength when there is a length of 1 1/2 times the diameter being engaged. With the split sleeves and only the length of threads in each end of the sleeve AND having so much exposed split area in the middle, I wouldn't trust the connection as shown.
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...What about "sleeving" the split -sleeve?...
Hmmmmm, got any pictures, drawings or explanation of how one would go about that?
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The rule I was always taught was that you had to engage equal to 1 dia. ex. , 1" bolt =1" thread. I think I'd fab some longer unsplit sleeves w/ jam nuts . Just seems those split sleeves would be a little flimsy. my .02
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I do not recall seeing a sleeve split the entire length. But be that as it may, the use of jam nuts defeats the old school look.
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I'm thinking a piece of tubing of the appropriate dia. to slide over the split sleeve, then plug weld so the split sleeve won't open or bend ??

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