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Old 12-20-2004, 03:28 PM
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Cheap tight fitting headers? any?

I just did a test fit Vortec into an '87 Supra. I need some really tight fitting headers that will exit by the bellhousing possibly near the stock location. They need to be really narrow as the stock manifolds are both hitting the chassis. Any ideas?
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Shorty headers

There are made some shorty block hugger headers that may work..The ususal suspects have them in stock..

That is jegs summit speedway those guys..other than that one may have to do something with fender well exit headers and those will need to be made for your application..

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You might consider using Corvette headers. I don't know what year though, but they are stock GM headers. The photo is of a friends engine for his S-10 pickup. He chose these because of the limited space when installing a Small Block in an S-10. He didn't like the aftermarket headers that wrap around the steering.

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S-10 headers are kinda tight and exit near the rear.
Get on Ebay and go into the Header area. Look at the different ones they have. Hg
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I've been looking on ebay. The only ones that look like they may work are for late model full size trucks? I think I'll search for some s-10 swap headers also.

Nice look there Frisco. Are those LT1 manifolds? The driver side...of course the steering shaft is the problem and I cannot relocate it. Do you have a couple of pictures of the driver side, side and top/front? or any measurements? Those look like exactly what I need.

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scratch that lt1s will not fit. looking at these>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MakeTrack=true

maybe I'll roll the dice?

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headers

Those Vette jobs are pretty fancy. Put me in mind of Fenton and Sanderson cast headers.

You might check in some of the off road magazines for SBC V-8 headers for S-10 swaps. Wondering if the frame rails are any closer together than in an S-10?
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It is very tight. I did an Rx7 last time and there was much more room.

Frame rails are 27 1/2" and the steering sector takes up 1 7/8" leaving 26.625"s . I might need to rethink this one unless somebody knows of a site that has measurements.
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Tight fit

I take it the stock manifolds arent an option either?
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I already took the grinder to them. no go

Nice body and 4.30 posi, i really want this engine in there!
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Perhaps I am pesamistic, but I bet you are not going to find a set to drop right in. Is is possible to go outside the frame rails?

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No, it is not possible. But you have given me an idea. I have two turbos off of the 2.2 dodge I4s. I think I can fit them similar to your set up. Do you think they'd be big enough? Also I have 9.5:1 compression.
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Reading some of the things you've done, and the knowledge/ability level you seem to be at, have you thought about making your own headers?
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The dodge T3's are pretty small. They will support 400-450 HP(maybe a tad more) and would spool instantly. They would likely become very restrictive in the high end. If you had real tall gears and wanted to make alot of low end torque with peak power around 4000-4500, they would work perfect.

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headers

What about fabbing your own headers, along the style of the shorties for the %.0 Mustangs? Or even go with a Log type header like they used to use on the Flathead Fords? They were a semi stepped header. Another option could be a tri-Y setup that goes up and over then down similar to the LT-1 jobs, that I saw for a 383 Mopar.
Is there room to split the headers and run two tubes to the front and then under the front crossmember and back, and run the other two down the back?
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You might consider using Corvette headers. I don't know what year though, but they are stock GM headers. The photo is of a friends engine for his S-10 pickup. He chose these because of the limited space when installing a Small Block in an S-10. He didn't like the aftermarket headers that wrap around the steering.



wow ,look at that header clearance ! spark plugs must be a joy to change? i have been looking for a stock performance exhaust iron mani for a while. these are the coolest ive seen yet.

NSX did you say a 87 supra? do you have a picture of the engine bay? did you use a shoehorn?

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