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Hey thanks! Can u do the same with my first one?
Its just "beater wagon burnout" without the 2....its much more violent and Smokey....and I almost put it in the weeds at the end! So fun....that's what pulling the car off the lawn to park it "right" after sitting in the pool drinking beverages amounts to....specially when the wife says "hey I have a cam corder on my new phone" dumbest things always start with "hey, watch this"

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Chris,your sense of humour probably got you in trouble throughout the years?
Dave,the wagon doing a burnout is just so wrong,in all the right ways
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My late night thoughts!

You know its funny that years ago so many of us built destroked high revving screamers and now when young people see and hear em they are flabbergasted that those little cubic inch engines were so fast!

Now its the 383 craze, 383s are nothing special to me any more everyone builds em! Its a simple build. Years ago 383s were difficult to build now all the bugs have been worked out by the seat of the pants racers and machinists from years ago! Planing a build with Denny (a machinist) my buddy! Us Getting a small block and a 400 crank, Man I remember assembling disassembling cutting clearances, reassembling cutting a little more, doing it again and again. Putting in rods (no one tried before) we couldn't ask anyone what worked! and seeing they hit a couple of cam lobes and grinding to get proper clearance for the cam knowing I could never put a bigger cam in it LOL because It would hit the rods Assembling and finding other problems!!! Alleviating those etc etc!!


Now 45 years later its all worked out for you young guys and you have the internet to ask us old wore out farts how much HP you have LOL Man I wish the internet was around when I was young!!

But years ago I had fun and the pats on the back at the strip when you had accomplished something that was thought imposable by many racers there! The things we engineered and shared with our pears with no recognition (just a thanks) and big companies using our Ideas to reproduce and get rich on, what you young guys buy and take for granted on the shelf of your speed parts store! You grab the part pay for it and walk out with no thought of the men that passed away who created it in an oily dirt floor auto garage LOL

I put 383s together now and its like a model airplane!!Just put the pieces together! LOL

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Chris,you probably built more 383s than Ive seen. I too like the old modified production and altered engines.The screaming 10ks is what hooked me into the automotive sport. I can see how bracket racing ruined that part of the sport

Then when brackets got popular,tracks started abusing bracket racers,with very low pay outs and 2 practice passes,,,,cars still need suspension tuning
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Your 40 a youngster back in what day LOL

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thanks for the post.Even I can say you are young,lol.
I wonder how they get an accurate 60 foot time on that Nova?Chris,its almost time for you to retire?
BTW,anyone heard from Richard? The forum is not the same without him.
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My late night thoughts!

You know its funny that years ago so many of us built destroked high revving screamers and now when young people see and hear em they are flabbergasted that those little cubic inch engines were so fast!

Now its the 383 craze, 383s are nothing special to me any more everyone builds em! Its a simple build. Years ago 383s were difficult to build now all the bugs have been worked out by the seat of the pants racers and machinists from years ago! Planing a build with Denny (a machinist) my buddy! Us Getting a small block and a 400 crank, Man I remember assembling disassembling cutting clearances, reassembling cutting a little more, doing it again and again. Putting in rods (no one tried before) we couldn't ask anyone what worked! and seeing they hit a couple of cam lobes and grinding to get proper clearance for the cam knowing I could never put a bigger cam in it LOL because It would hit the rods Assembling and finding other problems!!! Alleviating those etc etc!!


Now 45 years later its all worked out for you young guys and you have the internet to ask us old wore out farts how much HP you have LOL Man I wish the internet was around when I was young!!

But years ago I had fun and the pats on the back at the strip when you had accomplished something that was thought imposable by many racers there! The things we engineered and shared with our pears with no recognition (just a thanks) and big companies using our Ideas to reproduce and get rich on, what you young guys buy and take for granted on the shelf of your speed parts store! You grab the part pay for it and walk out with no thought of the men that passed away who created it in an oily dirt floor auto garage LOL

I put 383s together now and its like a model airplane!!Just put the pieces together! LOL

Jester

OK,ok,Jester.Your 6 months older than me.I'll give ya that one.LOL. I too feel I contributed to the design and application of the parts of today.
I do feel I wouldn't exchange my lifetime for anything.And yes I have my days that I envy guys around me that know nothing about cars that followed their college careens that drive around in their BMW's where after I graduated I ignored my degree.

But in hind sight,I have to say I've been very,very,lucky in my life.The things we thought nothing about in M/P and now looking back at the risks,we where lucky not to have eaten it.

Today we take a aftermarket BBC either in our case a 565 or 632 and buzz it to the moon expecting to do that round after round.

I think what has undermined hot rodding is ideas of a budget,no plan to create a income from hot rodding,(a business),the import parts that has done a fair job of convincing guys those parts are the same as quality parts when they are not,and guys instead of thinking things through are always looking for short cuts like in issues like tuning.Thank god for the island of salvation of guys like you,Vinnie,CD,well I can't name them all that try to leave a legacy behind of right and wrong.

I'll tell you guys this.When I turned 65 and got sick(yeah again damm it)it is a game changer.Not like before where you feel your infallible with endless tomorrows.I came to realize how each minute of everyday was so,so,important.And how I spend that time I will never get back.So either it is so important to me to spend that time or it is sometime I really enjoy.Other than that...screw it.

We have built from 434's to 383's to stuff into race cars for many.many,yrs and built street rod engines as well.We went threw a time period building Jr Dragster engines capturing in 5 yrs 5 track championships and built at that time a number of the same engines for customers.I think we can check that off the bucket list as being a success.Currently we are making aftermarket BBC's book.

Yep I look back to see the next generation now pick up the baton and run with it.It should be no surprise that will involve major electronics.For me,I'll be in the cheap seats cheering those guys on....................: thumbup:
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A few of the older guys might remember that the first 383 was made in the 60s
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1963 corvette,5 were made with a 377
"Duntov's objective with the Grand Sport was to make it ultra lightweight. In the end, they weighed in at about 1,900 lbs. or about 1,350 lbs. lighter than a stock Corvette coupe. They had a 377 cubic inch aluminum V-8 engine putting out 550 horsepower. They ran with a 4-speed transmission and 4-wheel independent suspension. "
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A few of the older guys might remember that the first 383 was made in the 60s
I built one in '78 using an LT1 block, 350 pink rods , 400 crank, 350 pistons. Had to clearance the block from the crank, the rod bolts from the cam and take .125" off the top of the pistons to get em down to deck height.
We used to call it a three and three quarter motor. I pulled mine to 7000rpm in top gear one night down the highway, hitting 140mph (yeh, young - no fear!!)..
Pulled into the driveway at home and dropped a valve, AT IDLE! (1500rpm), luckily, -goddamn two piece valves- 'twas a blast while it lasted..


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Yeah they are really cool cars but not even the same block as a 350. Its a custom engine before the 350 even came out.

Any idea what came they used looks like normal alum heads.
ya,it was a 327 block
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there were aluminum blocks and heads. These items were available,sort of,through GM and the prices would have to be cut in 1/2 just to be rediculous. The 377 continued after the 63 vettes were retired.There was a lot of politics and rule bending back then.Lots of things were never said or shown.
When I was 20 I was almost brought to tears when my Gf of the time was telling me about the discontinued parts GM was destroying in the warehouse. 4 LS-7s were run through a shredder. I got her to rescue a lot of things that fit in her purse.I managed a few SS emblems from first gen camaros ,2.02 valves,z-28 off road valve springs,etc
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The first 377s had aluminum heads and cast block single carb , later version went to aluminum block and cross ram with side draft webbers!

We tried to duplicate the build when we were young but they never came out to 377 they were always off by a bit 4 or 5 cu inch + or - LOL sleeve and bore thin walls, welded & turned cranks and custom pistons by Jahns We didn't have specs GM kept those hid LOL but we still gave it a try with many failures a few men around the country made them work! Money can work wonders! No photos, no movie on u tube no google page, no names in the history books, just little guys in a garage somewhere that have been long forgotten!!! Trying to copy a build they heard of! Everything is not on the internet like the stroked 327 60s 377 build that worked out to 383 when deck, gaskets, CC etc were configured!! I built probably 15(?) 350 stroked 383s over the years no kit builds, and not one came out to 383 they were 385, 381, my last was 387!!!

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"Numerous types of cylinder heads were on the drawing board for the Grand Sport (cast iron heads, aluminum heads, hemi/dual plug heads, etc). It is believed that three types of heads were actually used on the cars - cast iron heads & 2 versions of aluminum heads (standard exhaust bolt pattern & angled pattern)."


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