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Old 02-28-2013, 02:45 PM
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One no on ever saw and I barely got a glimpse of was a all aluminum 454. It came in late in my shift with prints off a truck to have me run it in the dyno rm and I was supposed to set it up the next day. They took it crate and all and put it in the dyno rm and locked it up stationing a guard at the door. We came in the next day with the door still locked and it was gone!!. The guards swore no one ever got in or out of the dyno rm.Just vanished.Never did find the damm thing...........Then the parade of executives came through.Man they where red faced ticked.

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both you guys obviously know a lot more than me. I saw a few oddities but nothing that rare. The only rare things(to me) that were way out there were a few mopar items I got a glimpse of.mostly slant six hi out put items,a head a 4 bbl intake with factory numbers.I was young and had no clue what it was. nothing special... couple L-88s and one L-89,cant prove it but I believe the owner.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:04 PM
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I worked on Mercury FLM 383 Marauders in the 60s its no big deal but I'm always told Ford never produced a #*#&%#& 383 LOL Its funny though what some have never heard of LOL

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Old 02-28-2013, 10:12 PM
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383/410 ya around 1960?
I had a 340 buick,not as rare,bought and flipped it
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:30 AM
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Tell ya what Vinnie.You would have been in 7th heaven to work at LPE when John was alive.He did alot of the R&D for GM building the Calaway Vett engines and alike.Real cutting edge stuff.We met up with him when he rented a super Wally world size supermarket size building next to his shop to auction off 30yrs of speed parts he acquired testing for GM.It was packed to the ceiling with one price bought a whole pallet. Man did we clean up on those deals.He was as sharp as a pin.He spent time with us because we where one of the top buyers.

I get the feeling it isn't the same as when he was around.Now seems to be just prepackaged stuff and not so much pushing the envelope.

But still to work at a place like that for a young guy like you would be pretty cool.
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I have only a couple experiences with the greats,mostly indirect.
John had a huge influence on the cobalt engine design.

Many years ago (70s) a super stock racer here was running 1/10 over the index.He talked to John and John guaranteed Buck that the car would go under the index with his engine. John sold him an engine,not cheap!! Buck was already in business selling engines so he tried to keep it quiet he was "buying" someone elses engine.
The car did not perforn as John said it would.Big fight! John looked at Bucks car and said his car(Bucks) was set up wrong for Johns engine and Buck had the wrong "brand" of tire.
Long storey short,Buck set up the car and changed the tires,,,He wanted to advance the cam and John said dont you dare touch my engine,,car ran 2/10s under the index

first thing Buck did was pull the engine and take it apart to see what and why.
I dont think Johns brother has the knowledge to make LPE cutting edge now.
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Its not just offset grinding,they used to also add weld to cranks.
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We also bought blanks. and years ago, billet race cranks,
And >> "WELDED STROKERS"<<,
and the like they have been around for many decades, and it was expensive, and hard work welding and turning cranks, or grinding from a blank!!! but for the average guy in his garage this stuff was as exotic as as a pink elephant, but it gave racers that went to the trouble and expense an edge. The availability of cheap Chinese aftermarket stuff has changed over time, and exotic custom cranks and aluminum heads are no longer out of reach of the novices. It kind of leveled the playing field!! with the 400 in the 70s it made a stoker easier for a guy to stroke a 327 or 350 in his back yard garage but still hard, and now the kits make it easy for a high school kid in auto shop to throw together with a little money!!!!! LOL

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I thought this was gonna be a video thread

I posted this one awhile back, thought some of the newcomers might like it. I might even video my Camaro from the rear, its got some nasty too. Turn it up loud!

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Old 03-01-2013, 05:53 PM
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Have to disagree. Because of availability, and prepackaging , and modern technology you can push the envelope harder than ever. You also get it done in less time. Who can waste time?
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I have a foot of snow and a few inches of Ice and below 0*frt forcast for tonight LOL but its march and the weather should break soon and then we will have fun with videos especially Vinnie when he gets that Vette out for a bath!!! And his wife is holding the camara LOL

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Even though the parts are more affordable, and require less finishing, the popularity is declining in the hobby. So many possibities are in reach for the tool proficient hobbyist. It makes no sense.

Did the segregation into groups divide and conquer?

Did the prestige fade because of jealousy?

When 3d printing becomes more common, it might ignite some new dreams.
Predicted in a old show called star trek, they had something called a replicator.
Home casting, imagine the projects.
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It's fading because the need is fading. You can get a cool looking 400+hp hotels from the dealer with only one or two extra bolt one and a 100000 mile warren try and almost 30mpg. It moved from back yards and garages to dealer show rooms. A muscle car no longer has muscle compared to the modern cars. Older custom antique cars are a different story as they have a different look but that's for old guys, you guys just want fast and loud so you buy a 98 or newer Camaro and put on a flow master. Done.

The sbc and its contemporaries are the flat head ford of the 80s.
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that's for old guys, you guys just want fast and loud so you buy a 98 or newer Camaro and put on a flow master. Done.




Ill take any muscle car from the 60s that ran 14s & 13s with their little 6 1/2 inch wide tires and put it along side a new Camaro with the same 6 1/2 tires mounted on it and see what happens!

Comparing performance then to now isn't fair!!! because of the tires #1 used in 1/4 mile tests and years ago, and the built in traction aids, gearing, ETC, on newer cars now and the wide meaty tires! put those on the old muscle and then run a comparison!!

1966 Corvette Car and driver mag. 1966
427ci/425hp, 4spd, 3.36 gears, 27" x 6 1/2" tires 0-60 - n/a, 1/4 mile - 12.8 @ 112mph put good tires on it and your in the 11s I can post many more with skinny tires tested back then that with good tires from today would WOW the young!

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Not only were the tire 6 1/2 inches wide,they were also polyester or belted bias ply if you had money
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