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Old 06-06-2006, 02:16 PM
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For rust and rust prevention I use Sem's Rustmort early in the process with the wash/rinse water...We all have different methods some off the hook to others...the bottom line is gonna be can you guarantee it for 10 or 15 years ?

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Old 06-06-2006, 08:04 PM
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Pretty funny thread.. just had time to read it.. you guys crack me up... while we are at it.. I had a major issue using the Endust on the last quarter I painted... had some land on the quarter when spraying my rag.. I wiped it off with 50/50 mix of alcohol and water I use when sanding sometimes and never gave another thought... I also dont like to use wax/grease remover, just my preference... and when i cleared it, bam fish eye city... first time it ever happened.. and I had used Endust allot, but evidently something is in there that makes paint not stick.. I always stepped outside when spraying the rag or sprayed by a fan to suck it right out... this time it got me... enough so that i gave my wife the Endust and bought a box of Crystal tac rags...

Sometimes lessons are hard learned... I knew better, Barry had warned me, but I did not listen... *******
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My goodness, do I want to get into this one? HELL YES

This is how I see it if any of you haven't read any of my posts before.


Long version: PPG, DuPont and the like spend MILLIONS of dollars creatingthe products that will sell. They spend MILLIONS of dollars in research to make these products work the best they can.

If Endust worked better than tack rags, they would sell a product like it. I mean, this isn't guarded technology for goodness sakes, they WOULD have a product like that if it worked. Now, that isn't to say that if you are careful and cross your T's and dot your I's and say a few Hail Mary's it will work. But by the ODDS you are better off using the products the paint companies have spent so much to create just for you to produce a better end product with fewer problems.

I respect your guys creativity but the paint companies aren't "missing" something, they are not stupid. I mean......they do this stuff for a living. They sell BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of dollars in product, they don't do this because they are short sighted morons.

As far as toilet bowl cleaner cleaning rust. Anything that is acidic is going to clean rust. Ketchup, lemon juice, an old favorite molasses, and others. But that doesn't mean soaking your control arms in tomato soup makes sense.

If you are an old hat at being a "junior chemist" and are pretty bright, go for it. But I say, keep it to yourselves. I hate for newbes to check into a forum once or twice and see some goofball idea and run with it.

Newbes, FOLLOW THE TECH SHEETS and you will be a LOT better off just by the simple ODDS, PERIOD

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Old 06-07-2006, 04:34 AM
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I hate for newbes to check into a forum once or twice and see some goofball idea and run with it.

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Your right and that worries me the most.

When I first saw this post I thought it it was a scam from the fact the guy has never painted before and comes up with this.

Like you know anyone with painting experience is not going to take this seriously but it only take on new guy for the first time to think its right.

After all the postings and then the guy totally changes his procedure form TB cleaner to acetone and then polyester primer you know it was a set up for the get go. or the guy is a compulsive liar.

Kinda like his compressor thread, about the same time I bought the exact compressor to run only one filling machine and the other compressors are IR and some HD ones but never a Cobalt.
He feeds us all this bull****, so I called the Lowe's store and ask for the manager and said my compressor is 3 weeks old and acting up.
He said bring it to store and we will give you another as long as compressor does not look abused.

He has no integrity in my book.

I just want to add, there was nothing wrong with my compressor and the reason we have a number of them is if were in the middle of filling and one breaks we must connect another and get it done, so chances of all breaking at same time seems slim to me.

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People posting these ideas need to keep one thing in mind. There are alot of people that come here for good information. They have never painted or done body work before, but heard that they can do it, with the right guidance. That is what they are looking for here, "the right guidance", not some off the wall idea. Giving "wrong information" is considerably worse than giving "no information". Alot of people decide to do this stuff themselves, not only because they can say they did it, but also to save money that they don't have. Not only can bad information cost that beginner alot of money, but it can turn them off on this hobby.

If you have some off the wall idea, such as the use of some household chemical on the project, your best bet is to keep it to yourself.

This is just my opinion of course. Then again, if you don't agree, get over it!

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OK, I tried. I really did. I couldn't come up with anything more rediculous.


Mix an eye of Newt (Gingrich) with a Toadstool (Hillary's)
And then blend with a quart of Presidential Power Aide (Monica)
Spread evenly.....nah neverind...
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