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Old 04-01-2011, 08:07 PM
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too much left, not enough right, turning ratio.

72chevy p/u slightly wrecked drivers side, changed center link and steering box, not much change, haven't tried to have aligned yet, but can let go of the wheel and ride tight and straight, confused.

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72chevy p/u slightly wrecked drivers side, changed center link and steering box, not much change, haven't tried to have aligned yet, but can let go of the wheel and ride tight and straight, confused.
Is this a methaphorical take on life, or a question best answered in the "Suspension" section?
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Old 04-02-2011, 04:06 AM
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Sounds like an easy adjustment unless you have something bent. Try adjusting the tierod that connects to the pitman arm.
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The pittman arm iwas installed wrong by the last guy who owned the box.
Pull the arm loose with a puller, set the wheels straight ahead, then turn the steering from lock to lock and count the turns.Then turn the wheel from one extreme (fully left or right) one half the number of turns that the wheel turned from lock to lock. Now you have the box centered and the wheels are straight ahead, put the pittman arm back on the shaft and tighten.
You will still need to adjust the toe in being that you replaced the center link.
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Be sure the pittman and idler (most often the idler) are correct for the application- if one is shorter or longer than it should be, you'll also get what you describe.
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Isn't the pitman arm typically indexed to the steering box shaft?
I think you will find the tie rods need adjusted to bring the box and wheels to center.
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Isn't the pitman arm typically indexed to the steering box shaft?
I think you will find the tie rods need adjusted to bring the box and wheels to center.
That was the procedure I described, actually. I had a 73 c 10 that a guy had the pitman arm on , improperly indexed and it would turn left like a porsche but turned right like a cattle truck.Tha is what was wrong with it.
The OP said he changed the box (with pitman attached) and it sounded to me like the problem was after changing the box. I could be wrong about that.Just my 2 cents.
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That was the procedure I described, actually. I had a 73 c 10 that a guy had the pitman arm on , improperly indexed and it would turn left like a porsche but turned right like a cattle truck.Tha is what was wrong with it.
The OP said he changed the box (with pitman attached) and it sounded to me like the problem was after changing the box. I could be wrong about that.Just my 2 cents.
You can't improperly index one (most) the shaft and the arm are made to go on one way, there is usually one area that is a flat among the splines.
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Yes they do have a blind spline on a lot of them, just talking from experience. May or may not be his problem.
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To the OP. You can check the indexing without removal of anything.Just turn the wheel lock to lock count the turns. Then turn to one side and return towards the center exactly one half the amount of turns from lock to lock.This centers the pitman shaft in the box and should leave the wheel straight ahead. Then jump out and look at the pitman. It should be parallel (straight forward) with the plane of the steering boxes mounting pad.
If it is parallel and straightforward, then the drag link is your trouble if it is not parallel then your pitman is indexed wrong.
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