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Old 09-16-2009, 05:10 PM
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Import a high quality tool, then back it with a real warranty, and I may use it. But what we need to do is start exporting. Lets start with the EPA and OSHA.....


Ina while, Chet.

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My engine came with a 1 year warranty..........I imagine that is the same as Honda....whether they would honour it, I wouldn't know......I don't know anything about the conditions in the plant where it was built, as I imagine, neither do any of you.......All I know is, I seemed to get a decent product for an exceptional price. BTW, it was on sale....I think it was regular $429...still a long ways from $999...........Ask me in a year if I am satisfied with this product and I will let you know.
Old thread alert........

Since it was brought back up.....about that Chinese engine I bought....Cut the grass with it all summer and it still works fine.......
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You Briggs&Stratton fans need to know that it is owned by a Korean/Chinese manufacturer now.
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A whole summer! I made the mistake of buying a craftsman mower a few years back and it lasted for about 1.5 years and then the carburator failed, went to sears and got a rebuild kit did not help the problem, bought a whole new carb worked for several months then started doing the same thing. It was maddening to get half way done with the yard and spend the next two hours breaking down the mower trouble shooting the damn thing. Gave it away free on craig's list. Craftsman has farmed most of their manufacturering out to China. To quote Tommy Boy, "you can take a crap in a box and stamp guarenteed on it". Just spent $7000 on a new E-Z go golf truck made in USA when the $5500 dollar one was made over seas. No thanks.
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BUY AMERICAN MADE and you will keep Americans working.Whether they live in the US or CAN, MEX.
Spend your money in your town. Use the local hardware store where u can still buy 1 bolt without all the packaging.
Help m keep those people working.
Buy American cars. , cloths etc.
Just imagine if we did that how many jobs would be created again.http://www.madeinusa.org/
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BUY AMERICAN MADE and you will keep Americans working.Whether they live in the US or CAN, MEX.
Spend your money in your town. Use the local hardware store where u can still buy 1 bolt without all the packaging.
Help m keep those people working.
Buy American cars. , cloths etc.
Just imagine if we did that how many jobs would be created again.http://www.madeinusa.org/

DING DING DING! Here's a guy who knows how to stimulate the economy. No tax hikes or 'stimulus' plans needed.
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Chinese engines

Honda seems to set the bar for the small engine market. However, when I built my own log splitter about 5 years ago, I priced out the Honda power for it. (Also the Briggs and the Tecumseh) Hmmmm....

So I went with an "el cheapo" Honda clone from China - a 6.5 hp horizontal shaft, with the brand name "Champion" on it. $99.00 at Costco

It has been used hard, and often. (Average about 5-6 cords per year for my own use and a bunch of wood for friends as well) It still starts on the first or second pull, does not smoke, makes no funny noises, purrs like a kitten and I can split a 3 foot diameter Douglas Fir log without worries. At 99 bucks a copy, if I ever do blow it up, its still better than anything else out there. Same ones are sold at "Horrible Fright", Northern, and many other places.
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"BUY AMERICAN MADE and you will keep Americans working.Whether they live in the US or CAN, MEX.
Spend your money in your town. Use the local hardware store where u can still buy 1 bolt without all the packaging.
Help m keep those people working.
Buy American cars. , cloths etc."

Well said. I love a bargain too but we've given away our manufacturing base, and soon our economy and quality of life for trinkets made by Chinese child labor.
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Not all Wal-Mart products are Chinese,I completely rewired my '54 and needed a lot of electrical connectors, Wal-Mart had all 3M Brand made in the USA connectors, CSK and Autozone connectors and switches are all chinese.
Ever get a toggle switch thats labeled wrong. I got one from wally world
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My bottom line thoughts....

Import a high quality tool, then back it with a real warranty, and I may use it. But what we need to do is start exporting. Lets start with the EPA and OSHA.....


Ina while, Chet.
EPA, let's see didn't china shut down many of there plants because of smog for the olympics. OSHA, would you rather be a coal miner here or in china?
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But, I bought a Chinese knockoff engine a few weeks ago for one of my garden tractors. It is 13 hp, electric start and looks exactly like the $999 Honda engine, except ist black, not red. I paid $288 for it....it runs great, starts first pull (I haven't hooked up the electric start yet)....That is just about 1/4 of the Honda price...If it lasts just 1/2 the time, I am still way ahead. Chinese products are getting better all the time and will continue to do so.....
Do you know why that engine is so cheap besides lower quality materials and parts? It is because china had to put basically $0 into research and development. They bought a honda engine and then reversed engineered it. Honda will go through the process and sue them, it will take a while and cost a lot of money and when they win the Chinese company will just shut down and reopen in a new name and make the engine again and the process starts all over again. That is why there are so many different Chinese moped brands and everyone I have worked on has been absolute JUNK!!!

I am glad the engine is working great for you, it may run for a long time, but you are supporting a company that steals designs and profits off it.
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The following is true... ever try to get service/replacement parts for a chinese moped/pit bike? HAHAHAHA!!!
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Do you know why that engine is so cheap besides lower quality materials and parts? It is because china had to put basically $0 into research and development. They bought a honda engine and then reversed engineered it. Honda will go through the process and sue them, it will take a while and cost a lot of money and when they win the Chinese company will just shut down and reopen in a new name and make the engine again and the process starts all over again. That is why there are so many different Chinese moped brands and everyone I have worked on has been absolute JUNK!!!

I live by this as much as possible... you can still find a lot of American made stuff by searching online, and be aware of the product labeling. Some try to have a little USA flag there and no 'made in usa' on it. Also- 60% made in usa is sure better than 'made in china'.
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"BUY AMERICAN MADE and you will keep Americans working.Whether they live in the US or CAN, MEX.
Spend your money in your town. Use the local hardware store where u can still buy 1 bolt without all the packaging.
Help m keep those people working.
Buy American cars. , cloths etc."

Well said. I love a bargain too but we've given away our manufacturing base, and soon our economy and quality of life for trinkets made by Chinese child labor.
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china steals Honda engine know-how,,,,,

HI,the way i heard it,was that China BOUGHT the rights to manufacture a few of the Honda engines.
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I personally know someone who has been hired to do research on honda's behalf to prove honda's design was stolen.

I should have mentioned that not ALL engine designs made in china are stolen but a good portion are. The old honda engines that were found in the trail bikes (mini trail 50, trail 70, trail 90 and trail 110) that are now made in china are legit. A few years ago the patents ran out on the molds so now anyone can make them. That is why the market got flooded with them and parts for them a few years ago.

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