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Old 08-23-2004, 12:27 AM
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I'm not trying to give you a hard time but the math tells the story even more so if you only have wheels that only measure 19 inches across. Why do you want a top speed of 160. To be honest I think 160 is a death wish on public streets. Take it easy man. Remember for every 10 MPH your risk of an accident doubles or rather at 160 you are nearly 33,000 times more likely to have something go wrong as if you are doing 10 MPH. To finally answer your question, I think you may be lacking some horsepower that is where I believe your problem lies.

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Old 08-23-2004, 01:18 AM
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yeah i hear ya 160 is alot i just wanted to go those speeds one time in this car because it has done it before with the last owner when he broke off the needle but he has changed things since that and i didnt get all the info from him so i was woundering what would be needed to do so. i know a nice blocked off road is the first step and thats pretty easy to do with some buddys out on the country roads. so dont worry everyone you wont see me flying down your local city roads in the middle of rush hour.LOL 140 sounds like a nice speed to do so if i can atleast gain 20mph that would be great. Just dont like getting passed on the freeway by these little imports and weak cars that would run like 22 secs in 1/4mile but can go like 145 before hitting a rev limiter. more horsepower would be nice once i get some extra money to buy some nice headers instead of these stock ones on it right now. does anyone know of any nice headers for cheap for a 350sbc?
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Old 08-23-2004, 09:49 AM
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nice headers don't come cheap.

If your car is doing 110 mph by the end of a quarter mile then you must have a 400 horse motor up front. A stock 350 won't even touch 100 mph by the end of a quarter mile.

IF your spedo stops at 85 how will you even know if you gain any top end?!

This is ridiculous.

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Old 08-23-2004, 10:21 AM
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the numbers stop at 85 but the needle keeps going for like another 80mph. i've seen some nice hooker headers around $600 but im looking to spend more like $200 and get something decent. its not stock it has a little bit of mods, cam,intake, carb, heads, a little work done nothing too specal tho. lol
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Old 08-23-2004, 10:33 AM
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I don't think 160mph is a realistic goal but you might be able to make 130
hehehe....

So YOU think

Try riding in a blown 98 cobra on the beltway at night

Things get interesting. Even though that last trip scared the **** out of me coming back from MIR. Already told the story, but he wanted to do another short run again, except his kenne bell wasnt doing so hot (started making boost at 4000RPM) and when he stomped on it, something started making a cracked and buckling noise right beside me to the left and this was at 125MPH. And YES, 5 speed manual, OD 5th gear, no 1:1 ancient technology there!

Yes, yes, yes... street racing is bad, street racing is bad, you want me to write it 100 times across the board or something?

BTW, several companies sell steels, clutches, and other things I'm just not yet aware of to strengthen the 4th gear(OD) in 2004R's and 7004R's. Plus when you accelerate with a carbed motor, it's not such a good thing to keep the pedel floored, accelerate the pedal with the revs, back it off at every shift. Eliminates bogs, keeps the trans happy, and can increase your acceleration if you are having bogging problems. No need to keep it floored at WOT to get up in there in the 100's, just glide the pedel down with the revs.

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Old 08-23-2004, 02:50 PM
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Just don't like getting passed on the freeway by these little imports and weak cars that would run like 22 secs in 1/4mile but can go like 145 before hitting a rev limiter
3 things... If you have the motor/car you say you do, then the ricer isn't passing you... And, show me a 22 sec car and I will show you the top end with only 2 digits... Finally, if you are building the car to do over 120 so you don't get passed on the highway, you are hotrodding for completely the wrong reasons and should perhaps find some help with the road rage...

Also, something you might find interesting.... A top speed calculator. This will tell you how much of a factor wind resistance is. Now, ignore the fact that the guys is talking about a double digit horsepower import and focus on the math.
Top Speed Calculations

That site kind of leaves out how gears figure in except for the first little part about "theoretical top end" and even then it is really behind the scenes...
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Old 08-23-2004, 03:46 PM
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Croz thanks for the point. My thoughts exactly. My car has a 5800 redline, 3.54 rear and .75 final drive theoretically 170 MPH + or - a few. This is a new combo for me and am still working the bugs out but will be very suprised if the car ever tops 140 assuming I have the balls to try it.
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Brian, you seem like a decent person. I'd hate to see you cause a fatality whilst speeding, because that would not be an accident. It would be viewed upon as a crime and you will be held accountable. Even worse, would be the thought of having taken someone's life due your stupidity. Speed limits are'nt set for those who are unable to drive fast, they're there for everyone. They're there to protect you, me and our friends and family from unnecessary carnage. Speeding is irresponsible and will eventually force the us to drive cars that are zoned (via satellite) which won't exceed the speed limit - no matter how much throttle you give them.
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Old 08-23-2004, 08:57 PM
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ok now everynody has the idea that i am a speed racer flying down the public road with no consideration for life. no thats not at all how it is i drive normal on public roads even getting passed here and there for going a couple under sometimes. even get yelled at by police yelling "theres a gas peddle". what i am saying is i was trying to get this car up into high speeds for larger races other then 1/4mile all the time and circle tracks. im more into rally racing then drag because it tests the driver and the alll around car more then going in a straight line for a couple seconds.
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yea seriously guys, stop ragging on the man, lighten up. Everyones gone fast in cars on the country roads, no need to get all high and mighty, the whole point in having cars without speed regulators is so we can go fast in them god......
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I'm more curious about the "breaking off the speedo needle bit"...please tell us more.

What make / model car is this?
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I am trying to figure out why you need a higher top speed. You will not die faster when you wreck.

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Old 04-12-2005, 07:22 AM
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I am trying to figure out why you need a higher top speed. You will not die faster when you wreck.

Chris
Larger fireball...you know it's all in the effects!
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I thought all cars had fireball explosions when they wrecked. Damn you HOLLYWOOD!!!!!!

It sounds like your wanting to build two seperate cars. One thats just a mightly low end ride, and another thats some high RPM high speed track star.

First off, if your car can go 110 in the 1/4 consider yourself lucky to have such a fast car especially at 18. Despite what is seen in movies it takes a bit of work for a car to even see 13's in the 1/4 let alone 12's and below.

If your motor isn't pushing past 4500 RPM it just doesn't have the power/sustainability to spin it and maintain it that high. If thats the case, then you DONT have a car that goes 110 in the 1/4. So far, your information to solve the problem contradicts many aspects of the problem itself.

What you need to do is first, decide if you want a 1/4 mile car OR a track, rally racer. They are two different beasts with two very different needs.

Second, get a functioning speedometer (if only to tell the cop how fast you were going).

Third, consider the aerodynamics of your car and decide if its really suited for top speeds like that. Also consider suspension and brakes. You want to successfully come down from that speed, as well as get up to that speed correct?

Speeds of the nature you are talking about dont come cheap. Your going to need more horsepower, more gear space, and a better sense of your car.
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Old 04-12-2005, 05:51 PM
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I am trying to figure out why you need a higher top speed. You will not die faster when you wreck.

Chris
says the guy with the 700 hp S10, LOL.


Hey guys this thread is old, and lame, let it die.
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