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Old 09-08-2005, 08:07 AM
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Tough task, asking for help

The JOY of repainting a car for the 2nd time cause u had no idea what u were doing before... its just ... so great...

Anyways, i have painted this thing already and completely messed it up, and now i plan to do it the way im supposed to, but... i need some help.

I had to take off the tint due to louisiana law and it left some mad glue on it (thinking this tint was put on 30 years ago heh), i cant get it off with a razor, gasoline, or paint thinner, i have a picture of it in my gallery, its not so good quality but gives an idea i would think.

Second is the problem on the passenger side on the runner, the metal door plate or whatever, im having some type of bubbling i cant stop, i can sand it down to nothing, repaint it and the same thing happens.

Eventually i really want to start painting, or sanding i should say, but the scheme i want is probrably near impossible as an amatuer, i want to do it anyway as long as i can get tips while im doing it. I realize there are a lot of things i need to know about paint and its really mind boggling to me at this point. Some of my car is steel, some is fiberglass and some is plastic, i have no idea how im going to figure out what i need for each of the components much less afford it.

Im not worried about the paint right now, i need to prep it and sand it down again first and hopefully get that glue off. In the end i want a metallic blue probrably midnight blue color, with the same color mixed somehow with a black to create a stripe down the middle of the car in line with the cowl creating a stripe that looks like a film (almost like the same blue with window tint running the stripe effect) and 2 white pin stripes, one on each side of the stripe, and about 6-8 clear coats. To do this i have no idea if i need to paint it all together or do the blue then stripe and pins, i dont know the best way to do it as of yet.

Critisizm on this job is expected, right now i would like to know what is causing my paint to do the bubble effect and how i might can go about getting the glue off my windows.

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Old 09-08-2005, 08:16 AM
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Shade,
The last time i done this my tint had been on for ten years. i used a spray bottle with amonia and water in it. Make sure its the sudsy type. I still had to use a blade to scrape the window but it made life alot easier.
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:44 AM
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Thanks, that is working really well.

Not really sure if i should go about finishing up what ive done and just sand it and clear coat it or go ahead and start striping it down and prepping it to paint, if i strip it all i will have time to do is prime it within the next month, or just clear coat it as is and drive it until i can get all the resources i need and do the whole paint job all together when im off a few days. What i have so far, i think looks descent other than the bumper cause it peels horribly, paint just didnt stick. This is the first time i ever painted anything and i didnt know anything about chemical matching. I have a picture of how it looks right now in my photo albumn (that picture was after about 2 coats, i now have about 6 on it and wanting to put another one or 2 before i would even clear coat it), with clear coats i wonder how it would differ. I really like the satin black covered with clear coat for all the chrome i used to have, but the blue, it just looks horribly imho, its metallic blue and looks like a flat or matte blue.
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What kind of paint are you using is the BIG question.

Since you have not clear coated I'm assuming it's a single stage or you didn't realize that you HAVE to clear regular base paint,usually within 24 hrs.

Bubbling paint is usually a sign of rust under the panel you have not removed or seen in the rocker.

6 coats huh? Flat or matte finish, Sounds like you just sprayed base coat.
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:28 PM
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wow thisll have a huge laugh, ok... I was using a Marine Primer 3487 White(Valspar) and Marine Solvent 3082 Marine Thinner, codes do not match, but its what the guy at ACE said would work... well it didnt i had to mix all-purpose Lacquor thinner with the primer just so it would shoot through my gun and stick, the thinner he said would work wouldnt even mix with the paint. Understand i had no idea that it would make a difference way back then. So i sanded it down to bare metal except for the plastic and fiberglass components since the paint wouldnt come off and i didnt want to ruin the bumper and fender, which i scratched up really good hoping it would stick (i did the same for all the chrome pieces which are now all satin black, clear coated).

Paint - Colorplace Rust Control Spray Enamel Satin Black (Wal-Mart, chrome is all satin black), Dupli-color Truck Van and SUV, Spray Paint Dark Metallic Blue (Wal-mart, i dont have a can with me but its was call: 164, body is this color) and Dupli-color Truck Van and SUV Clear Top Coat Spray paint (also Wal-Mart). I have only painted and clearcoated the trim, which i really like, it came out good, it has also held for 4 months so far, but im going to repaint it the way it is supposed to have been done.

Now, as STUPID as all that was to do, i had never painted anything before and never knew about all the chemicals and other useful or mandatory rather things to know (im an electrician).

Now that ive seen this site i know im going to have to strip it down and repaint it, here is the problem, i work a lot, i wont have time to do everything i need to do for a few weeks, at the most, i could sand it down again, prime it piece by piece and hope that holds out until i get all the pieces primed then paint it piece by piece but i highly doubt that would work, OR i can clear coat this just for the hell of it since i already bought everything and get the NEW CORRECT resources i would need and wait until i have a week or so off and paint it the way i should have in the first place.

I am concerned about the primers and paints i will have to get because my car is not all steel or all fiberglass, i have steel, fiberglass and plastic components on my car and im betting ull say i need a different type for each.

Right now i really need someone to suggest what course of action to take and really what i need to know, i read the page with all the types of paint ect but i still have no idea what each is for or what i would need for my project.

When it comes to my car, im a do-it-myself type of person, i like to learn how to do new things and even though i did my first paint job completely wrong, i still did learn a lot. It is like a hobby to me, i dont have a lot of free time but i do enjoy painting and bondoing, which is the only thing ive found im good at, i sit at my rear quarter panel for about 2 days straight GRIND, grind, grind, sand, grind, sand, grind, sand, bondo, sand, bondo, sand, bondo, sand sand sand sand sand, bondo, sand....

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Shade, 3M adhesive remover, available at most any paint supply or even Wal-Mart, will make short work of that glue problem at least it did for me.
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The amonia worked pretty good, it was messy but it did get it where the razor could get it off easier.

If i still had it on there is would definately try ur suggestion though
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