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Old 11-14-2005, 06:07 AM
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TP Tools Turbine HVLP Systems

Iíve been offered one of these for use on my project and was wondering if someone had some input on it. They sound nice but I just donít know about it. I did a search but notice not many people talking about these and figured that maybe thatís because most people here just use the HVLP guns with compressors.


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I'd really like to hear how they would work for car paint.
I know that they are the 1st choice for woodworkers.
I'm also a woodworker that sprays cabinets with lacquer, my
conventional guns like the Binks 7 always seemed to spray lacquer
better than the HVLP guns I do car work with.
The turbin guns are known to spray better that conventional
spray guns but I think they are spraying thinner materials
than auto paints.
I'm sure they would have no trouble with base coats but I'd
like to hear how they would do with primers and clears.
One thing for sure, you never have to worry about moisture
or oil with a turbin gun.
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TP has three testimonies in their tech section but two of them are acrylic enamel and the other is House of Color with no reference to the type of paint they sprayed. The person I know that has this bought it a few years ago with good intentions but hasnít used it yet.
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That one heats the paint, so will not work on Urethanes unless you figure out the speed and amount of Urethane reducer to add to every urethane product you spray.

It will work great on enamels.
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That sux because I have already committed my self with the urethane for this car! Its bad enough trying to get things ironed out since I donít spray on a regular basis. Iím not going to play around with mixes every time just to get it right. Itís too bad the heat effects the urethanes. I think things would get even more complicated between metal temp., air temp. and the temperature of the air coming out of the gun.
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You don't know half the problem, I have ran into a couple of painters that have figured these things out by adding reducer but they will tell you its a lot of trial and error with each product.

I just recently had a shop in Texas been trying to spray my clears all 6 of them for 3 months, kept getting minor solvent pop. We went over everything
and I finally told him, I don't have an answer so I would just use something else.

He said well all the other clears pop and yours comes out the best.
Then he said could it be the gun? I said no you said you were using a 1.4 HVLP.

Than he said turbine! I never thought to ask. I had pulled my hair out for two months with this guy and the poor jobber was at wits ends trying to figure out the problem also.
The jobber said he bought a new Sata that day.
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thats all b.s. really i have been using turbines to paint cars, trucks, first started with trains and buses. wonderful machines. just like anything else in this world people are not used to something, and don't accept it, it gets frowned upon. You can shoot any type of paint with these units. and only thing they do suggest is slow reducer and activator. thats it. learn in. love it. Use it.
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well your the first i've heard that liked them. compressed air is hot enough but the turbine is much worse. and yes i have used them. they tried hard in the 70's to get us to use them. speeding up urethane is the worst thing you can do. and for a novice to try it will be a disaster.
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Wow, I never expected this one to come around.

I actually did just what you said by using the next temp range or slower reducer and everything worked out great. I sprayed the SPI Epoxy Primer and the DuPont Nason Ful-Thane 2k urethane with great results after a little practice.

It was tough switching from the old full air gun to the HVLP Turbine but once you got use to it things worked great! It's been five years and the paint is still holding up great.
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well this is not new technoligy. the guns are diff. in how they adjust the rest is just better. Nothing new, just not used enough. Some states are trying to make it manditory. Plus for me and my shop. I put less stress on the air compressor and save it for my air tool use. Not too worried about a little water getting in my tools.
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It's easy to cool the air; add an extra length of hose and
wrap a few coils into a 5 gal bucket of cold water. You can
even add a few ice cubes.

I like the high transfer efficiency of turbine systems. Less wasted
product, and much less overspray.
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