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Old 08-23-2009, 09:44 AM
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Nope. The answer is very relative to the hint.
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Charles Kettering and Edward Deeds founded Delco.Kettering was instrumental in the development of the electric cash register for the National Cash Register company but did not own or found the company. He also developed workable automotive airconditioning. Deeds founded the Dayton-Wright Aircraft Company which to the best of my knowlege now makes alumnum cookware.

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Nice!!! As I had stated in the question, founded and organized. Although Deeds was the 3rd president of the company, NCR reorganized based on what he brought to the table so was always considered through the company as a co-founder of the company that exists today. The rights to the Wright Brothers name was purchased by Deeds but he got out of it after the WW1 when the government got out of the contracts that killed many companies. Deeds got together with an engineer named Rentchler to buy the gun manufacturer Pratt & Whitney which is now Pratt & Whitney Aircraft, part of UTC.

The Deeds currently existing accomplishments I was referring to are NCR and Pratt & Whitney.

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Back to regularly scheduled programming.

You just did a .030 bore job on your favorite motor. You didn't change comp ratios, cam or any other major tuning spec. It now has a wild ping. What is that and what is the most likely cause? This hasn't really been a problem for years.
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Back to regularly scheduled programming.

You just did a .030 bore job on your favorite motor. You didn't change comp ratios, cam or any other major tuning spec. It now has a wild ping. What is that and what is the most likely cause? This hasn't really been a problem for years.
Since you have changed the swept volume of the cylinder you have effectively changed the compression ratio. What that means, you have more air-fuel supply to squeeze into the same number of cc's in the head(s). Since I'm lazeeee, I wont try to figure out how much more on a "standard" 4 inch bore x 4 inch stroke engine.


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It would figure out to less than a tenth of a point.
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Ping

You have changed the bore - however slightly - and now you have gotten into an area where the "quench/squish" area is not controlling the flamefront as well as it used to. "Ping" is actually detonation, and one theory is that it only occurs when the flame begins to raise the temp and pressures to where the remaining fuel/air mix - usually farthest way from the plug - now reaches its combustion point and spontaneous combustion occurs.

(Either that or you have now got a mismatch between the cyl walls and the edge of the combustion chamber and there is a sharp edge to cause a "glow-plug" effect)

I have seen happily-running engines turn into "knock pigs" when compression is actually reduced! (Because the quench area is no longer effective)
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A wild ping is detonation that occures at random. It may be under acceleration, deceleration, cruise or idle or combinations. The most likely cause of this is protrusion of the head gasket into the cylinder bore after the bore job.
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Trivia Question

OK- here goes

"Everyone" knows that Ray Haroun won the first Indianapolis 500 in 1911, and that he drove an "unusual" type car for the day - it was a single-seater with no "riding mechanic", and that he "cheated" by using the first rear-view mirror instead of having the "mechanic" tell him what was behind.

The manufacturer of that car was a "major auto maker" of the day. What make was it?

AND - much like Cadillac brought out a lower-priced division called the LaSalle, this manufacturer also brought out a lower priced line. What was that car line called?
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The wasp was built by Marmon. It was also unusual in that the motor was built of a series of two cylinder castings bolted together to make engines up to 16 cylinders. Marmons cost from 4- 8 thousand dollars. In 29, they introduced the Roosevelt for under a thousand. I believe that Marmon still build trucks today.
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Exactly right, 'Bone! Your turn!
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Both USAC and CART have reserved the number 14 for A J Foyt and will retire it permanently when he leaves racing.


Why did AJ choose #14 in the first place?

Foyts words, not conjecture.
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Foyt Trivia

Although I know the answer to this one, I'm going to sit it out. I had noticed in the past that this thread had degenerated into a trivia contest between me and MartinSR, with Nightrider and a few others getting in on it. SO - I've decided to just watch for a while before this gets into a "me vs 61Bone" exclusively trivia match.

Hope this meets with the approval of all.

(Besides - if I answer this one, I'll have to come up with the next question, and I'm running outta ideas!)

I did find it "interesting" that I was "matching wits with" folks from all over the USA, Canada, plus Russia, plus Australia and the whole world. Isn't the Internet wonderful?

Woulda thunkit that when were growing up, we would have been able to do this?
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