[Dave57210]

OK - It cannot be the dual ignition systems - Cadillac had that in 1910 (although they were different types- one with points and coil etc and one with magnetos). Cad also had the "ignition timer" and distributor as well

Aluminum pistons had been around for a while already

The piston style with 2 compression rings and one oil scraper didn't happen until 1917 at Packard

I "think" (well, I sometimes think, but it usually gets me into trouble and no good ever comes of it!) that other cars had already used alum pistons - certainly marine engines had used them by then

So I'm a gonna go with the "one distributor per bank of cylinders" concept

[35terraplane]

Originally Posted by Dave57210

OK - It cannot be the dual ignition systems - Cadillac had that in 1910 (although they were different types- one with points and coil etc and one with magnetos). Cad also had the "ignition timer" and distributor as well

Aluminum pistons had been around for a while already

The piston style with 2 compression rings and one oil scraper didn't happen until 1917 at Packard

I "think" (well, I sometimes think, but it usually gets me into trouble and no good ever comes of it!) that other cars had already used alum pistons - certainly marine engines had used them by then

So I'm a gonna go with the "one distributor per bank of cylinders" concept

Cobalt They might have been first butnot what I'm looking for.

Dave Your in trouble.

Holy smokes I didn't know one engine could have so many things that were first.

Bob

[Dave57210]

Ok - logic now says that it's gotta be the pistons - nothing else would fit the description!

[35terraplane]

Originally Posted by Dave57210

Ok - logic now says that it's gotta be the pistons - nothing else would fit the description!

The way it's put in my book, it's says the 1915 Packard was the first production V-16 engine, and it was the first to employ aluminum pistons.

Dave I think you were right in that others had used aluminum pistons, but not in production.

So Dave you win the prize. I do have a picture of this monster engine, it does look different. I will try to scan it and post. this set of books has tons of pictures of cars of the day, also drawings of frames and engins, it's kind of cool.

Dave the floor is yours.

Bob

[Dave57210]

Ok - here's an "easy one": Which car (year, make model) had the first FACTORY INSTALLED radio?

[Joe G]

Without Googling, I will guess...1929 Mercedes-Benz

[35terraplane]

Originally Posted by Dave57210

Ok - here's an "easy one": Which car (year, make model) had the first FACTORY INSTALLED radio?

1929 Cadillac LaSalle, had a Delco-Remy radio from the Delco-Remy Division of GM.

Bob

[Dave57210]

You are BOTH right on the year, but not on the car

[35terraplane]

Originally Posted by Dave57210

You are BOTH right on the year, but not on the car

Dave I went back to my source, ( hey my source google, like i'm the only one that has it.LOL) anyhow I found a spot that says according to the book "Chronicle of the American Automobile over 100 years of auto history" it was possible to buy a 1922 Chevrolet with a Westinghouse radio installed. I know that is not what you are asking for, but I thought I would just bring it up. I found this while looking for a car from 1929, which most places did say was the year of the radio for cars. But I have not found which car yet.

Bob

[dinger]

a 1929 Packard 645 Convertible Coupe that was built by Raymond Dietrich (Individual Custom) for Lloyd W. Smith

[Dave57210]

The car radio was invented by 1922, so yes, there likely were some Chevvies that had 'em. The installation was always done by car radio dealers (think custom auto sound installers in today's terms.)

MANY cars had "aftermarket" radios installed that way, and many had "dealer installed" radios as well. No doubt an expensive custom-bodied car like a Dietrich Packard would have had a radio installed, as well, But I am looking for the first one that had a radio FACTORY INSTALLED

[richard stewart 3rd]

Hi
Ford 1933 Galvin later after name change Motorola
Rich

[Dave57210]

Originally Posted by richard stewart 3rd

Hi
Ford 1933 Galvin later after name change Motorola
Rich

Earlier than 1933

[35terraplane]

Originally Posted by Dave57210

Earlier than 1933

1929 Studebaker Champion.

bob

[richard stewart 3rd]

1930? Ford

* In 1930 it took two men several days to put in a car radio – the dashboard had to be taken apart so that the receiver and a single speaker could be installed, and the ceiling had to be cut open to install the antenna. These early radios ran on their own batteries, not on the car battery, so holes had to be cut into the floorboard to accommodate them. The installation manual had eight complete diagrams and 28 pages of instructions.
I just had to post this.
And today we don't event think about the radio, it's just there.


HIT THE ROAD

Selling complicated car radios that cost 20 percent of the price of a brand-new car wouldn’t have been easy in the best of times, let alone during the Great Depression – Galvin lost money in 1930 and struggled for a couple of years after that. But things picked up in 1933 when Ford began offering Motorolas pre-installed at the factory. In 1934 they got another boost when Galvin struck a deal with B. F. Goodrich tire company to sell and install them in its chain of tire stores. By then the price of the radio, installation included, had dropped to $55. The Motorola car radio was off and running. (The name of the company would be officially changed from Galvin Manufacturing to “Motorola” in 1947.)

In the meantime, Galvin continued to develop new uses for car radios. In 1936, the same year that it introduced push-button tuning, it also introduced the Motorola Police Cruiser, a standard car radio that was factory preset to a single