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Very interesting tool. I guess you would have to call it a "locking" wrench as apposed to a pair of "locking" pliers. It has some of the qualities simular to a pair of vice grips (patented by William Petersen in De Witt, Nebraska in 1924). It has a pair of pliers like gripping jaws that are adjusted by a lead screw. To be classified as a set of pliers a tool has to have two handles. A wrench has only one. Whats neat about this tool is that it can be adjusted with a wrench, a socket, or a tee handle bar. The question is who made if and when? Did this develop from Petersen's Vise Grips or the other way around?
Great tool! I've never seen one like it!

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Bung wrench..327/350 got it right. The end with 4 protruberances is for removing the 2" bung in a 30 or 55 gallon drum, the other hexagon end is a socket for taking out the 3/4" plug. If it's a good one, it's bronze, so it won't have any chance of making sparks when you start bumping it around on a flammable liquids filled drum.

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Here's something cool. Not too many people have ever seen one, but I guarantee you have one of it's ancestors in your toolbox.

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Very interesting tool. I guess you would have to call it a "locking" wrench as apposed to a pair of "locking" pliers. It has some of the qualities simular to a pair of vice grips (patented by William Petersen in De Witt, Nebraska in 1924). It has a pair of pliers like gripping jaws that are adjusted by a lead screw. To be classified as a set of pliers a tool has to have two handles. A wrench has only one. Whats neat about this tool is that it can be adjusted with a wrench, a socket, or a tee handle bar. The question is who made if and when? Did this develop from Petersen's Vise Grips or the other way around?
Great tool! I've never seen one like it!
The other way around..That tool is the very first patented tool made and sold by Petersen, patented in 1921..Look here He sold them out of the trunk of his car, to farmers and shops. In 1924 he added the over center locking handle, then in 1957 the locking handle release was added, which became the tool we all know and love today...Sorry the picture is crappy, but it does say VISE GRIP "PAT"D on the handle.. The side has S.P.W.Co, Dewitt, Nebr stamped in it..I bought it for 5 dollars from a guy who has a used tool truck that comes by the shop...

haha, Yes Brian, these days, I am a hit and run guy..Periods of introversion mark my life story, if I was an artist I'd be considered mysterious and aloof, but as that's not the case, I'm just antisocial..haha Been working at a pretty diverse shop in Morgan Hill, doing some neat things..Wiring, hardware installs, suspension work, fab work..the kind of work I trick people into thinking I'm good at..And I'm learning stuff from those guys too..So far I've done 4 LSX motor swaps, 2 actually run..haha 1 LS3/T56 from a GTO into a 68 Camaro, an LS2/4L60 in a 63 Corvette roadster,(customer dropped out for a while with a stroke, so we backed off), a 5.3L truck motor/4L60 in a 78 Cadillac "San Remo" Convertible, (another trivia piece, I keep expecting to see John Travolta come in wearing his "Saturday Night Fever" duds to check on his disco car) and a EROD/4L60 in a 78 Jaguar XJ6..Both of the newer cars are to be smog legal..

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The other way around..That tool is the very first patented tool made and sold by Petersen, patented in 1921..Look here He sold them out of the trunk of his car, to farmers and shops. In 1924 he added the over center locking handle, then in 1957 the locking handle release was added, which became the tool we all know and love today...Sorry the picture is crappy, but it does say VISE GRIP "PAT"D on the handle.. The side has S.P.W.Co, Dewitt, Nebr stamped in it..I bought it for 5 dollars from a guy who has a used tool truck that comes by the shop...

haha, Yes Brian, these days, I am a hit and run guy..Periods of introversion mark my life story, if I was an artist I'd be considered mysterious and aloof, but as that's not the case, I'm just antisocial..haha Been working at a pretty diverse shop in Morgan Hill, doing some neat things..Wiring, hardware installs, suspension work, fab work..the kind of work I trick people into thinking I'm good at..And I'm learning stuff from those guys too..So far I've done 4 LSX motor swaps, 2 actually run..haha 1 LS3/T56 from a GTO into a 68 Camaro, an LS2/4L60 in a 63 Corvette roadster,(customer dropped out for a while with a stroke, so we backed off), a 5.3L truck motor/4L60 in a 78 Cadillac "San Remo" Convertible, (another trivia piece, I keep expecting to see John Travolta come in wearing his "Saturday Night Fever" duds to check on his disco car) and a EROD/4L60 in a 78 Jaguar XJ6..Both of the newer cars are to be smog legal..

Later, Mikey

Well that makes sense. I poked around and found these pics. Any idea what th stampimg PV was for?
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MIKEY so glad to hear from you! Sounds like they are using your skills at that shop, holy cow that is some complex swaps you are doing there.

On Vice Grips, to to highjack this thread but it tears my heart seeing those tools made in America where they BELONG. I REFUSE to buy a Chinese made one, I REFUSE and I need a couple others, I am searching ebay and swap meets for a REAL pair.

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Well that makes sense. I poked around and found these pics. Any idea what th stampimg PV was for?
It wondered that myself, it's stamped in both sides of the tool, and the hex of the clamping screw as well..The stamped letters are filled with the same paint as the rest of the tool, which appears to be the original paint, so I'm thinking that it may be the initials of a business name, and was stamped at the factory. When I did my poking around, I thought I read somewhere that when Peterson took an order from someplace like a tractor shop, or repair shop,and they ordered a lot of them , they could have their name stamped in at the factory..I could be wrong..

I look around at the swap meets and garage sales for USA made Vise Grips, the Chinese ones are poop...

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Someone toss out another question. I gotta go feed dogs.
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What was the first GM production hardtop without any frame around the glass?

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Door glass? Windshield? Vent wings? Back glass? Vanity Mirror glass? Side view mirrors?
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:36 PM
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Oh yeah, sun roof?
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Side door and quarter panel glass.

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Well if no one else has it how about a 1963 Buick Riviera. There maybe others that year. GM did share some secrets between divisions. I had one.
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Well if no one else has it how about a 1963 Buick Riviera. There maybe others that year. GM did share some secrets between divisions. I had one.

You bugger, ok, you got it. How about a bonus question what was very interesting feature on that cars body panels that no other American car that I know of ever did until about 40 years later?

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Are we talking a design feature or a construction feature?
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Are we talking a design feature or a construction feature?
Well, both. It's design feature was done for construction reasons.

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