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Old 12-21-2012, 05:23 PM
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DOHC means two cams per cylinder head, right? So a DOHC V8 would have four cams?

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if you count the sherman tank ,the early 40,s a v8 and a v12 also in can am racing ford built 10 DOHC engines for auto use 1967 based on a 385 series engine

Haha I just got schooled .....I was thinking the 1962 "kent" engines used in the lotus. However with a little research you sir would be correct there were 13,000 ford 60 degree Ford manufactured all aluminum V-8 engines with DOHC used in Sherman tanks in WWII.

Here are some specs I found quite impressive especially considering the RPM:
Bore 5.4" Stroke 6", CID 1100 (or 18.0 litres), CR 7.5:1, TQ 1050 ft-lbs@2200 RPM, HP 500 @2600 RPM

And it was originally built as a V-12 airplane engine that never made it into production, so Ford chopped off 4 cylinders and made a V-8 for Shermans lmao. Guess that makes it your turn 496Chevy
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:37 PM
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Joe ,you are correct as for four can on a v8 ,example 1963 ford 427 dohc called a cammer used in limited nascar ,used in can am ,then in 64 sohc and 65 Bill france banned these sometimes called a shotgun or cammer tAcually a true ford Hemi --sa for my question Ford made 5 versions of the small block 1960-1988 what were they
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Are you referring to cubic inches or series? Just want to clarify because in cubic inches there were a lot more than 5 and in series I can only think of windsor, cleveland, and y block
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:21 PM
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i was refering to cu in ,i dont think the y block .fe or 385 series or flatties were small block
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i was refering to cu in ,i dont think the y block .fe or 385 series or flatties were small block

The "Y" block engines were the 272, 292, and 312 and were considered small block engines by ford. The FE (332,352, 360, 390, 406, 428) were "medium" block engines, and the 385 (429, 460)were big block engines. The 335 cleveland engines were considered small block engines by ford but appeared larger because of the head configuration which caused them to have a wider intake. Kinda like the newer model modular engines they look huge but take off the heads and the block is very similar in size to a 302 windsor.
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Are we talking just ford or Ford Lincoln Mercury

Ford: the 221 260 302 335 351 clevlands, 289 boss302 351 windsor

Mercury 1960 had a 312 and the Marauder 383 I don't think it was a small block though I worked for Ford, Lincoln, Mercury in those years

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Yes the 312 Merc was a Y block but the Y block engine also included a 239 and a 256" version, And don't leave out the 410 FE. The 383 along with the (again) 410 430 and 462 were MEL engines. And let us not forget the mysterious 361 and 391 FT engines.
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:45 PM
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jester you have the answer i was speaking of 221,260,289,302 windsor 351 the 351 cleveland is considered a big block never heard of 335 i have a 332 also a fe truck engine and the boss is a small block with cleveland heads ,a small block with big block feads ,I guess this would be called a hybrid now LOL You would have the floor the 221 is the one i didnt think anyone would remember

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jester you have the answer i was speaking of 221,260,289,302 windsor 351 the 351 cleveland is considered a big block never heard of 335 i have a 332 also a fe truck engine and the boss is a small block with cleveland heads ,a small block with big block feads ,I guess this would be called a hybrid now LOL You would have the floor the 221 is the one i didnt think anyone would remember
I was working at a Ford dealership those years. I remember seeing that 221 in Fairlane's around 1962-3. I also remember 260's in early 64 1/2 Mustangs. All of the Mustang's with the 260ci had generators. In 65 Fordstopped the 260 in the Mustang and they had alternators. I think you could still get the 260 in the Falcon.

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Just as a side note, All the small block 221-351 were Windsor engines. And of course the 351 Cleveland.
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Thanks for the info BB i was under the impression mustangs with generators were 64 1/2 and with alt were 65 ,same as you i bought a so called 64 1/2 with a generator i bought it in 69 ,then i bought a 65 2+2 with an alternator with 260 2v 4 speed with air ,underdash yet it had Ford on face ,also had two 65 falcons .one a 260 the other 289 /271 4 speed sprint I didnt hnow the Cleveland was a small block .we forgot abouy the 400 m a boat anchor, only have pictures and memorys I guess we al do Thanks Again
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Carolina how could you forget the fabeled 427 , i am getting schooled on Ford what was the 383 a Mercury .Edsel or what
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The 383 was a MEL engine used in Mercury's and possibly Lincolns. The 430 was the only MEL engine used in the 58-60 Thunderbird's and to then best of my memory wasn't used in the Ford big car line.

We did forget one more Y Block. The 56-7 Lincoln Mark II and the Lincoln Premier both used a 364 cu in Y Block but as I remember they weren't quite the same as the Y Block in my T Bird. After doing a little research I find that yes indeed Lincoln had a whole series of Lincoln Y Blocks a 279, 303, 317,332,341, and a 368. These they didn't share with Ford or Mercury except they were used in the Ford Heavy Truck line. They were used in the Lincoln from 1952-1958 in the Lincoln car line and continued in trucks until 63.
Edsel used only MEL engines but I don't think they ever used the smaller MEL's.
MEL = Mercury Edsel Lincoln

Don't get me started on the 385's! ( but did you now they made a 370 and 514ci 385?)

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Oh yeah I forgot the 427 FE, but nothing ever came of that engine!
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Carolina how could you forget the fabeled 427 , i am getting schooled on Ford what was the 383 a Mercury .Edsel or what

The 383, 410,430, and 462 were all part of the "MEL" Mercury, Edsel, Lincoln series engines. I want to think someone said they were based on the same block as the "FE" 330, 360, 390 etc but I can't say for sure Maybe someone with a little more knowledge on them can teach us both something lol. As for the 427, there were four different 427 engines produced,. All were based on the "FE" block but had thicker cylinder walls and strengthened decks for hihger compression because the engine was originally desgined for race only. The stroke was the same as the 390 (3.78) but the bore was increased to 4.23, The top oiler first (oil goes to cam and valvetrain first then to crank second), the infaomus "side oiler" the crank gets oil first then the cam and valve train, much like the oiling system of the "Y" block engines) the SOHC and the DOHC. A fun fact is that the 427 engines were actually a 425 CI that ford called 427 because the 7.0 liter was the largest engine allowed by the racing orginizations of the day. If I am in correct please forgive me and correct anyhting necessary. It has been a while since I researched things. And thanks to everyone for the information I have already learned a LOT from reading posts on this site.
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The FE was in my opinion one of the best engines Ford has ever produced. They are virtually indestructable under normal circumstances.

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