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Old 01-13-2013, 08:21 PM
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Alright. Let's not be tacky. Next thing you know you are going to say the roadster was a throw away car.

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Old 01-13-2013, 08:25 PM
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Again purely a guess but are your doors originals and your buddies doors replacement or did he replace the wood with steel? If I remember correctly replacing the wood with steel is a fairly common change on those cars but I don't know enough about them to know if the coupe came wood or steel? Or maybe it was a cost thing? Since the roadster was the less expensive model?

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Yes you do Kelly. Actually I thought this would be too easy and hesitated to ask it. Both cars were built as they are from the factory.
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Ok one more and I'll stop for a little bit and try to come up with something reasonable. Is it a weight reason? Or maybe the date of manufacture? I think the dash was changed in the roadster from painted to woodgrain around may/june of 36? Maybe they changed the doors too? If I am still wrong I will stop for the night LOL. Please correct me if any of my information is wrong as I am always looking to learn from others who know a particular car. There's always someone with more knowledge.

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Old 01-13-2013, 08:40 PM
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One clue. The roadster, 3 window coupe, and phaeton were all built differently for the same reason.

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One clue. The roadster, 3 window coupe, and phaeton were all built differently for the same reason.

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Well the roadster had no windows, the phaeton had roll up windows with the window frame made to the glass and no top door frame, and the coupe had roll up windows with a window frame as part of the door (if I am correct?) Could it because of production costs and speed of production of the different models due to demand?
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Well the roadster had no windows, the phaeton had roll up windows with the window frame made to the glass and no top door frame, and the coupe had roll up windows with a window frame as part of the door (if I am correct?) Could it because of production costs and speed of production of the different models due to demand?
Actually the Phaeton had no windows either. It was the 4 door version of the roadster. The convertible sedan was the 4 door version of the cabriolet.

Hint number 2 ....The roadster and 5 window came out of different plants.

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Actually the Phaeton had no windows either. It was the 4 door version of the roadster. The convertible sedan was the 4 door version of the cabriolet.

Hint number 2 ....The roadster and 5 window came out of different plants.

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See there I learned something else lol. So maybe it was due to availability of steel or wood or the tooling at various plants? Were Murray and Briggs still players in the Ford body in 1936? Geez I don't know Oh well I made a relatively educated guess but I am out of ideas...... I like the questions that make me think plus I have learned a lot from these guessing games.

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See there I learned something else lol. So maybe it was due to availability of steel or wood or the tooling at various plants? Were Murray and Briggs still players in the Ford body in 1936? Geez I don't know Oh well I made a relatively educated guess but I am out of ideas...... I like the questions that make me think plus I have learned a lot from these guessing games.

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You just about have it nailed down. You are very warm. You have my blessings to google it.

Ok so from what I can find at the moment not all of the factories had pressed steel capabilities. So therefore I would presume that the roadster was built at a factory without pressed steel ability and the coupe was? So it was a result of the factories ability to press steel or not?

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The Roadster was built by a different manufacturer, Briggs I believe.

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Murray built all the open cars. The car bodies assembled in the Ford plant had no body i.d. tags, if they had a tag, they were built by Murray, Briggs or Budd. These tags were riveted on the inside right firewall. Mine had no tag. Patent tags were also attached to the firewall.

I am going to throw a guess out here, the roadsters had no windows, just snaps for the curtains. The wood would provide extra bracing for the door.

I have a book: 1935-1936 Fords, by the early Ford V-8 club of America. One interesting fact I found while looking through the book, the convertibles had removable pillars.
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Murray built all the open cars. The car bodies assembled in the Ford plant had no body i.d. tags, if they had a tag, they were built by Murray, Briggs or Budd. These tags were riveted on the inside right firewall. Mine had no tag. Patent tags were also attached to the firewall.

I am going to throw a guess out here, the roadsters had no windows, just snaps for the curtains. The wood would provide extra bracing for the door.

I have a book: 1935-1936 Fords, by the early Ford V-8 club of America. One interesting fact I found while looking through the book, the convertibles had removable pillars.
I have to give it to you Dinger. The answer I was looking for was Murray built the roadster. You are incorrect in one respect. Murray did not build all the open cars. They built the roadster, phaeton, and 3 window coupe bodies. Henry built the cabriolet, convertible sedan, and 5 window coupe as well as all the sedans.. The Ford built bodies were far superior and more advanced than the Murray bodies.

You have the floor Dinger.

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I have to give it to you Dinger. The answer I was looking for was Murray built the roadster. You are incorrect in one respect. Murray did not build all the open cars. They built the roadster, phaeton, and 3 window coupe bodies. Henry built the cabriolet, convertible sedan, and 5 window coupe as well as all the sedans.. The Ford built bodies were far superior and more advanced than the Murray bodies.

You have the floor Dinger.

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Wait a minute, that answer is not why they were built different. It just tells who built them different. The question was "why" they were different.

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Wait a minute, that answer is not why they were built different. It just tells who built them different. The question was "why" they were different.

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Same thing BB, "Why" did the Tigers loose the World Series last year? Because they didn't score enough runs, AND because the Giants did.

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