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Old 02-05-2013, 04:45 PM
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this was 1967 i still have one ,but i still miss my Gran Prix


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Good Choice dont it make you feel Good
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496Chevy3100 your up ask a question. Inquiring minds want to know!

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Who caused this car to be Discontinued and why.. I realy own cars that are Not red
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That's a Chevrolet Corvair, Ralph Nader took it upon himself to to challenge GM on it's safety record both in his book "Unsafe at any Speed" and in Congressional Hearings. The car itself had a tendency to roll under itself on turns. One reason being GM's cost cutting measure to remove the front sway bar it was designed to have. The car had other issues but that was one of the primary points.

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Old 02-06-2013, 06:55 AM
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You are correct,i installed front and rear sway bars it helped some ,not enoubh,,Did you notice shifter it an automatic. Tou have the floor.
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I can't see the shift lever but wasn't it on the column?
After I gave you my answer (honest!) I looked up the controversy and found out Nader went after the 60-63's. All of the hearings and his book happened around 65. It lead to the formation of the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act in 66. GM by that time had re-installed front and rear sway bars. The car was produced from 60-69. In 72 the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said it wasn't any worse then it's contemporaries. The damage was already done and the car was long gone. Actually it wasn't a bad little car for it's time.

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If you look close ,Ihave to blow up 400% but the shifter is on dash between radio and inst.panel this si a 63

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Here's another Corvette question.
Why did the majority of the 55's handle better than the 54's?

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They had a front sway bar?

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That's a Chevrolet Corvair, Ralph Nader took it upon himself to to challenge GM on it's safety record both in his book "Unsafe at any Speed" and in Congressional Hearings. The car itself had a tendency to roll under itself on turns. One reason being GM's cost cutting measure to remove the front sway bar it was designed to have. The car had other issues but that was one of the primary points.

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I think what did it more than anything was the swing rear axles, the rear tires went into terrible positive camber the second the rear raised a little when the front dived. When they went to a real double U joint rear axle shaft. The VW was exactly the same, somehow it went unscathed in the controversy.

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I think what did it more than anything was the swing rear axles, the rear tires went into terrible positive camber the second the rear raised a little when the front dived. When they went to a real double U joint rear axle shaft. The VW was exactly the same, somehow it went unscathed in the controversy.

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The Corvette 63 an newer had the same setup ,and the newer z06 and zr1 corvettes even have transmission mounted on rear diff,for better weight distrubution and less tortional loss thru a drive shaft. Mabe this should have been a trivia question.
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No they didn't, ahhhh, there lies a trivia question. I thought the first ones had a "swing" type axle with the outer being fixed without a U joint like the VW? The Vette had a real IRS with two U joint axles with the rear knuckle remaining vertical thru it's arch. Was the Corvair the same? God I haven't thought about it in a long time and brain cells aren't what they use to be. I could swear they had a "swing" axle up to like 65-66.

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Second generation (19651969)

A dramatic redesign of the Corvair came in 1965. The new body showed influence from the Corvette Stingray and the 1963 Buick Riviera. The mild coke bottle styling set the trend for GM cars for the next fifteen years, foreshadowing the 1967 Camaro. For the first time, none of the passenger cars had a "B" pillar, making all closed models true hardtops. The second generation's styling was rated timeless when new, and considered contemporary today in comparison to the first generation. A new fully independent suspension, similar in design to the Corvette, replaced the original swing axle rear suspension. However, the Corvair used coil springs at each wheel instead of the Corvette's single transverse leaf spring unit.

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I did not know the were swing axles in early models, i have an old 64 Corvair Spyder at my fathers pasture ,I junked it several years ago i will look when i go up there, I have learned some thing today.that proves( i dont hnow everything).LOL Yea that was a good idea remove b pillar on cars prone to rollover.
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