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Old 01-03-2005, 10:23 AM
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Trojan Horse Threatens Windows XP

Here is the latest threat regarding Windows XP and Internet Explorer:
http://news.com.com/Trojan+horse+thr...3-5506709.html

One solution: Try something other then Mircosoft. One option that exists for web browsers and E-mail is Mozilla's Firefox and Thunderbird, respectively.

Here is an article discussing the pros and cons of the new Mozilla Firefox web browser: http://www.techsupportalert.com/firefox.htm

The "Geek Squad" at Best Buy put Firefox on my new personal laptop and told me to use it exclusively whenever possible. I did not realize this, but is it a free download. Go to www.mozilla.org and just click to download Firefox 1.0, or click on the picture below. Firefox will import your Internet Explorer favorites as Firefox "Bookmarks".

Since Firefox is non-Mircosoft, it is much safer since most viruses and spyware are specifically designed to attack Mircosoft. Plus, according to the above article, IE was developed using older code and attacks were virtually non-existent; but it seems Mircosoft is slow to respond. There are some cons to using it, such as some websites will not work, but you can always still use IE when needed, but you need to set your Cookies level to high when using IE anymore.

Firefox is the new deal for me, and I plan on downloading Mozilla's Thunderbird E-mail program as well.

Everyone should consider using Firefox for web browsing. It is free, safer and faster then IE. Ed www.edgesz28.com

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thats what we have on the computers at my school. it works pretty good
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Check out the Tab Browsing Feature

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Trying it out............................
After you get it installed, check out the tab browsing feature. It works just like pages in a spreadsheet. And, as you open more and more tabs, they compress so that you can still see the tabs. I opened 20 tabs as a test and they kept compressing so that all tabs are still visiable on the screen. On IE, after so many windows get opened, it consolidates on one tab, only indicating the number of pages open.

Go to Tools>Options>Advanced>Tabbed Browsing - Select "A new tab in the most recent window", and check all four options below.

Now, before clicking on this link www.edgesz28.com, hover over it and right click it. Then choose "Open Link in New Tab". The tabs (or separate websites) are at the top of the pages.

Then, once you have two open, you can right click next to the last tab and open a new tab that can be used for another website. You can also open a new tab from your "Bookmarks" (IE - favorites) by right clicking it.

But you still can open another website in a new window. Same as "Tab", but choose "Open in New Window".

As far as I can tell, IE only offers "Open in a New Window". The Firefox tab feature is very convenient for browsing between open windows.

Make sure you check out add-ons and plugs-ins at the Mozilla website. For instance, I added the Googlebar which helps when searching within an open page, and also installed Macromedia Flash 7.0.

I am really looking forward to seeing the Firefox option grow. Ed.
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In my business I get just as many people with virus' using browsers other than IE.

Most of them get a virus from file sharing and visits to porn sites.
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Mozilla site says that IE won't be supported unless you have windows XP, so I.......


Dug out my old laptop that I havn't used in a few years and am putting it on it.

Having troble importing my old bookmarks, but will try it. This old thing onlly has 32 meg of ram.......good thing I am not in a hurry.
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In my business I get just as many people with virus' using browsers other than IE.

Most of them get a virus from file sharing and visits to porn sites.
Your right, and file sharing MP3 files is a risky idea (kazza and limewire). But viruses and spyware are two different things. My local Best Buy told me that probably 90% of their computer repair business is now eliminating spyware. In some cases, a complete restoration of the hard drive is the only option.

Most spyware is designed to track your surfing habits and is not malicious. If spyware goes unchecked, they will be running all the time and this is what slows down or completely shuts down a computer. But some is malicious and when it strikes, watch out! I had one recently change the IP address for my ISP and it had me down for a couple of days.

The idea behind using Firefox (or other non-Microsoft browsers) is that because the code is different, most spyware does not have a "route" in. Hackers are concentrating on bringing down Microsoft, so taking the time to attack Firefox is probably a long ways off. It's not foolproof, but it is safer just because it is not a Microsoft product. Give it time, and I am sure they will have just as many problems.

An interesting thing about this is that Firefox is "open-source software". Just like Linux is "open-source". Programmers across the world donate their time for free and develop new software such as Firefox and Linux (which is an operating system like Windows XP). That's why it is so cheap, or even free. It is probably these same guys (or gals) who are introducing viruses and spyware that is malicious toward Microsoft.

There are some free trial versions (30 days) of spysweepers like at www.webroot.com. The first time I ran spysweeper, it cleared out like 300+ spyware files. I have a friend that had over 800!, and it basically shut down the system. It would take 30+ minutes just to start up.

Poncho, I am not sure I understand your last post. Firefox works on XP, both professional and home editions. It is the newer versions of IE that will not work on pre-XP operating systems. That is Mircosoft's way of forcing you to upgrade operating systems. Ed
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Mozilla Firefox is what I have been using foe awhile.Works real good.
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I have been using Mozilla Firebird and Thunderbird XE for quite some time because my computer literate son told me that was the best available to fight off virus and spam. He was right because spam and virus has been basically non existent since switching. After reading Edge's post, I have down loaded Firefox 1.0 and have been on the phone with my son trying to restore all my settings and bookmarks from Firebird. As we chat, he is changing his computer from Firefox .8 to 1.0 and will figure how to transfer all my settings. He tries to keep our computers identical so he can help me out over the phone.

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Poncho, I am not sure I understand your last post. Firefox works on XP, both professional and home editions. It is the newer versions of IE that will not work on pre-XP operating systems. That is Mircosoft's way of forcing you to upgrade operating systems. Ed

What I was trying to say, that I was putting Firefox on my win95 laptop. It also has IE 5.5 on it. Both seem about the same .................................................s looowwwww
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I had a Trojan threat one time.
Thought I was going have to marry this girl, but it eventually..... Sorry, I guess were talking computer viruses arent we? HG LOl
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Good Summary about Spyware, Etc.

I found this at my South Carolina Road Runner site.

http://www.sc.rr.com/rrhelp/spyware.htm#5


Here are some free programs for cleaning your system:

http://spybot.safer-networking.de/en/index.html
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/

Anti-spyware prevention programs are available also:

http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html

Read the entire article though, for it describes each of the above links. Good luck with your spyware/adware hunting. Ed.
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Your right, and file sharing MP3 files is a risky idea (kazza and limewire). But viruses and spyware are two different things. My local Best Buy told me that probably 90% of their computer repair business is now eliminating spyware. In some cases, a complete restoration of the hard drive is the only option.



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You can get virus' from jpegs now. You can also get VIRUS from downloading music files ( at least they look like music files)

I get a lot of my business from the customers that went to best buy 1st. The have big $$ for advertising to ring in the customers but will hire any idiot with the certification. Just like auto techs, just because you went to school it does not mean you are competent.

If they are having to reformat and re-install windows a large % of the time they don't have a clue what they are doing. An Fdisk/reinstall is the no knowledge required way to do and it takes much longer ( which is the idea when you get paid by the hour ) lothan just getting rid of the virus/spyware.

Operating out of house I average 13+customers per day - most of them referals. They would not tell their friends if I did a pi%% poor job.
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I got that "my Search" trojan horse in my computer last spring. Man is that thing ever maliciuos. It just won't go away! I had to completely strip the computer and reload all the softwear. I was using Netscape for a little while, I though it was sorta clunky. Someone I work with loaded Firefox on one of our computers in my office, I'll hafta try it out.
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