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Old 09-20-2003, 12:55 PM
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Trunk panel replacement

I was running some new wire in the trunk last night and I had to remove the side interior panels to get to the tail lights. After I removed the panels I noticed they were not in great shape, the material looks like a cardboard or some type of press product with a vinyl over it. Anyone know what this stuff is and where I can get it? Can I use Masonite?

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Old 09-20-2003, 02:46 PM
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From what I understand, bro', Untempered Masonite is the way to go ... easy to form.

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Old 09-21-2003, 02:35 PM
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Alot of people scoff at masonite, saying/thinking that an interior is made out of peg board. But masonite is pretty good stuff. Same basic thing as MDF (we use heavily in our interiors). So basically its just saw dust glued and pressed together, but it is always consistent, no knots or anything like that. The 1/8" masonite is great for curves.
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Old 09-22-2003, 12:22 AM
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The stuff in there now has a faux leather grain to it, I'm want to cover them in vinyl with a leather grain and insulate behind them with that bubble pack stuff Willies36 was talking about or the stuff they sell at PepBoys. If I cover them in vinyl is there a trick to get it to look tight without bending or warping the Masonite? I'm doing some rewiring in there now fixing sins of the previous owner and adding an a kewl LED 3rd brake light. I'm using spiral wrap instead of split loom because the wrap keeps the wires where you put them. The split loom lets them float to much.
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Old 09-22-2003, 03:39 PM
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Whats the best way to cut the masonite stuff. I don't want a sloppy edge.

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Old 09-24-2003, 03:56 PM
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When you say untempered what do you mean? Is it the same as the Masonite that is sold at Home Depot. It seems like the regular Masonite would work.

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I dunno, Mark. KristKustoms told me the untempered masonite is the stuff to use ... I haven't gotten around to it yet, but I figure when I do, I'll ask about "untemepered" masonite and see what kind of answers I get.

As far as cutting the stuff, I imagine a fine-toothed blade in a jigsaw will get you a good clean cut.

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Old 09-25-2003, 12:15 PM
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Hey Alan,
I went to Lowes last night and looked around, the only Masonite I could find was the hard brown stuff. They did have some nice 1/4 plywood for about 7.00 a sheet. Since I want to cover them anyway I might opt for that. The plywood is much more durable than what's in the car now. I just wonder if it will be noisy with vibration. I had thought about using birch plywood and staining it and clear coat but that seemed a bit impractical. I asked the sales guy if they had untempered Masonite and he gave me the deer in the headlights look.

Hey Kriscustoms what is that stuff look like your talking about? fiberboard?

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LOL!

Thanks for the report, Mark.

What about 1/8" plywood? That would be my second choice. I don't think it would create any more noise than the masonite.

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Hey Alan,
Yep I think it's going to be the 1/8 inch plywood for me. My question is were did you get you gray carpet padding? I want to glue some of that to the back of these panels for sound deading.

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Good ol' Home Depot, man!


Check out their carpeting area ... they have 2 kinds out underlayment for carpet -- one is the sponge rubber junk (no way) and the other ios this cotten fiber stuff. I call it jute. I bought enought to do my entire firewall (all the way up under the dash!) and floor for only $11!!!

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Hey Alan.
Well started making the panels today using 1/8 plywood. I see the real advantage with Masonite no splinters! But the plywood bends nicely into place. I found some padding like yours except it has plastic on both sides. I paid .45 cents per linear foot. I also noticed this cool stuff at Home Depot for wrapping water heaters. It looks just like the stuff they sell at Pep Boys but bigger. His foil on both sides and felt in the middle, they say it's rated R45. I think I may use it on my headliner and doors. Going to cover these with black vinyl, the guy at the upholstery shop told me to use 3M 80 contact cement and let it get very tacky, then put the vinyl down. He said to wait because the vinyl has now way of letting vapor out and it will bubble. Anyone have tips on a better glue?

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Hey, Mark

Good news, man! R45 is a great rating! I'll be looking to get some of the same stuff.

For gluing to the ceiling, you'll want to use 3M "Top & Trim" (recommended by our in-house master here, KristKustoms) ... on all my floor stuff (mentioned above) I've been using 3M Super 77 with happy results.

Glad to hear the plywood is working out for ya, bro'!


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Hey Jag...if you use contact cement it has to be dry not tacky. With contact cement you coat both surfaces and let it dry to the touch. Then when you put it together it will stick. Just make sure you know where you want it because it does not want to come back apart.

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Old 10-01-2003, 11:06 AM
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I tried to make the first one last night, I think it would have been better if I would have sealed the plywood first. I noticed as I sprayed the contact cement on it was being sucked up by the wood. I ended up putting 2 second coat on and used a piece of cardboard to level it out. It seemed to stick well, biggest problem I'm having how is getting the cuts right for some of the curves. Some of the sharp bends tend to leave a small gap in the vinyl, maybe I need to paint the edges black on the next one. I'm almost tempted to trim the vinyl flush with the edge and put a rubber beading around it. Any ideas?

Anyone ever tried using a hot glue gun for tacking down the back side of the vinyl?

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