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Old 02-29-2012, 08:31 PM
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I think i might just do that. It wouldnt hurt and it would be very beneficial to know.

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1 3/4 primaries 3" collector, longtubes, most likely 45* dumps to come out of them. If not - duals with flowmaster 40s

Talking about Small Blocks, Lets see now, Just a little story. Back about 1970 I was living in and around Dever Colorado and there was 3 Drag strips within 40 minutes of home, and saturday nights as well [2 lane black top]. I had a 57 chevy 210 post [2 door sadan] 283's were plentiful in the salvage yards for around 50 to 75 bucks you pull. Many of these engines were 2brl carb. I would take home and install a TRW cam .536 lift 326 duration solid lifter and use the early Corvette 2 fours [Rochester 4 jet] stock ignition, tuned hookers , 4:11 posi with a munci 2:54 low 4 speed tranny and YES RETREAD 10" slicks ETHEL Gas, that was top grade back then [pump gas] I was running 12.70's. I came off the line at 5500 and shifted at 7200., Now keep in mind, those heads were 1.87 or 1.88 intake and 1.50 exhaust. Just think what it would have done with a good set of heads???? On Saturday nights there was this guy who had a 427 vette that was always out there,, process of elimination,, I sometimes came up against him,, he never did beat me running the 1/8 mile, shortly after that he would blow my doors off though,, But the story is to say no matter what you put together, you will have fun. I'm 63 this year and still playing with my toys, weather it be one of my 3 Harleys out in the shop or building the blown 496 BB for my 36 chevy pu,, thanks for reading my story, just thought I would share this, Dad
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Yep, him and his three other alias' have been banned.


I know when I read his threads there was something wrong, sounded too stupid to be true,,,,,,Dad
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Old 03-01-2012, 08:31 AM
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if you have the motor apart why not measure the VTP clearance.
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I think i might just do that. It wouldnt hurt and it would be very beneficial to know.
I have been thinking
since its out of the car, I would knock it apart and recheck everything
upgrade the cam, to whatever you can clear with those heads/pistons


and I know I havent been any real tech help
but I stick to a lot of these T-ram threads because I plan on running one
so I am learning along side of you
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hey man: a tunnel ram will make a lot more power than any other intake manifold can.

except a tuned IR manifold...
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Old 03-01-2012, 02:07 PM
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except a tuned IR manifold...
If your talking about "isolated runner" Making more power then the tunnel ram your Wrong !! Look at the chart! The tunnel ram has the best Power potential! It always has!

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Jester - good article.

I went through the anvil artice that described their results with the tunnel ram. The intake they used was a street ram. Edelbrock if im not mistaken. After comparing the two, it looks like the eddy intake is a bit smaller than the weiand. Maybe that worked a bit better for them due to small runner size, and smaller plenum area... That kinna caught my eye a bit.
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:15 PM
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Jester - good article.

I went through the anvil artice that described their results with the tunnel ram. The intake they used was a street ram. Edelbrock if im not mistaken. After comparing the two, it looks like the eddy intake is a bit smaller than the weiand. Maybe that worked a bit better for them due to small runner size, and smaller plenum area... That kinna caught my eye a bit.
The edelbrock or the weiand are both good choices ! I just happen to like the weiand I have no particular reason! I used to run isolated port hilborn long tube (which has a ram effect) for automatics till a guy at the strip loaned me his tunnel ram to try! Ive been into tunnel & cross rams ever since. as you see in the charts its like running 2, 4 cylinder engines that's why spread bores, vacuum secondary's, & single carbs at the track starve some cylinders. One carb feeds the front 4 ports the other the rear! Its a straight shot from your carb venturie's down the intake ports the weiand plenum doesn't effect that at higher rpm because of the very high velosity of the incoming fuel air charge ! its like each ventury feeds 1 cylinder at high rpm and the plenum equalizes the vacuum pulses Thats why it produces so much more power then the isolated ports (at least that how it was explained to me years ago) It was called theory LOL because no ones small enough to crawl into a tunnel ram and prove it LOL! Like hydraulic theory! That was many years ago one of these guys might have learned different in collage now!! But that makes no difference The tunnel works and thats whats important

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Jester - good article.

I went through the anvil artice that described their results with the tunnel ram. The intake they used was a street ram. Edelbrock if im not mistaken. After comparing the two, it looks like the eddy intake is a bit smaller than the weiand. Maybe that worked a bit better for them due to small runner size, and smaller plenum area... That kinna caught my eye a bit.
after I bought my weiand, I learned the edelbrock has smaller runners and is better for the street
but if I was building a drag car I would stick with the weiand
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If your talking about "isolated runner" Making more power then the tunnel ram your Wrong !! Look at the chart! The tunnel ram has the best Power potential! It always has!

Jester

http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/intake-tech-c.htm
No, I'm right. There are plenty of wrong articles out there. Without getting into the math or dynamics of why you can simply look at at F1 car. A particular IR manifold may not do as well as a particular tunnel ram but it proves nothing about the overall design concept.
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Old 03-02-2012, 08:24 PM
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Another ideea i was kicking around, and i actually saw a few people do it was - a fuel injected tunnel ram. each runner had an injector bung welded into it, an injector stuffed in each bung, 2 sets of rails to feed 4 injectors. instead of running carbs, the guys ive seen had two proform throttle bodies. The fuel system was controlled by a megasquirt EFI stand-alone system that could be easily tuned with a laptop based on O2 sensor, TPS, (i dont remember if they had MAP) inputs, and a basic IAC setup. Injector pulse was piggybacked off the distributor or triggerd by a crannk sensor. I actally spoke to a few people that ran megasquirt efi (MSEFI) and everybody had good things to say. Pretty easy to tune too.
Some guys actually made their own T-Ram top to accomodate one single throttle body instead of two. Depending on the TBs used, without a progressive linkage that would be a whole lot of CFM all at once.

Check this link out
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/210102...et-monte-carlo

The only thing that im slightly hazy about is - im pretty sure teh MSEFI was batch firing the injectors, as opposed to a tru tuned port injection system.

That megasquirt setup is some bad ***** stuff.

Food for thought

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Old 03-02-2012, 08:31 PM
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i was trying to keep it to myself because the F.I. guys give me a hard time but...

here is what I plan to use on my T-Ram
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:14 PM
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Matt - the link s not working.
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Matt - the link s not working.
works ok for me
its a fast ez efi kit with a dual quad upgrade kit at summits site
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