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Old 01-02-2013, 10:15 PM
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I think you just called me a horse lol......better then a hippo I guess....

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Old 01-02-2013, 10:26 PM
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I think it will be the result of a very convoluted plan.
Here is a good build plan you could have followed to the letter.
Chevrolet Small Block - Engine Buildup - Tunnel Ram, Nitrous - Hot Rod
Your killing me here, i can't actually find the cam specs on the anvil build, I have tried, and like I said, I haven't bought a cam yet, so I'm open.....fine, i wont have killer Motown heads, or a dart block etc, but really, how convulouted is it.....10.5 compression, 2 dp carbs, big solid lifter cam, good flowing heads, say the brodix IK200's. .....your saying this is a terrible mixed up plan? The plan is -450hp, decent reliability, cool factor, and a big snarly sound.....don't even say "get a thumpr" I don't wanna hear it....and would like to actually hit my HP target.
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By next week you will have a whole different plan. I am sure.LOL
Kinda committed now....motors at the machine shop, and rebuild kit ordered, and intake on my bench.....no turning back, just fine tuning now...
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My choice for the tunnel ram motor you are trying to build would be
two edelbrock 750's 1407. with the choke horns cut off.
put on the Summit200/Brodix ik200 heads. with Isky #201534, isky 201547 or isky 201549. 1.5 summit/scorpion roller rockers

and get the right converter and gears for the job.
Yah, I have those already, I forgot, have a set of no name 1.6 rollers, and summit 1.5.....the 1.6 were a freebie, and the summits were $100 and a pro comp intake trade.
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I remember reading the anvil article quite a few years ago
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I hate tunnel rams.

And if you run dual 750cfm carbs you realize that is 1500cfm?
If they were sitting on top of a supercharger you could get away with it.

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I hate tunnel rams.

And if you run dual 750cfm carbs you realize that is 1500cfm?
If they were sitting on top of a supercharger you could get away with it.

Well, I'm glad you hate tunnel rams! Because I was honestly concerned about Your opinion on my choice of intake. Fk, that mighta kept me up at night wondering, thank god you voiced your opinion as now I can get a sound nights sleep.
And yes.......my poor uneducated brain was able to suffiently add the 2 carbs cfm rating together successfully. Did you know that if I run 2 650' s that its 1300 cfm? Or to 450's its 900cfm, or 2 850's its 1700 cfm? I can keep this up all night.....
Timing and tune....you can make the 750's work well......
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choosing a dual quad set up is not as simple as finding what works as a single then dividing in 1/2,roflmao!
If a single 750 works ,then when you put 2 on,you use the same or similar size.
A tunnel ram is one of the key ingredients to make an engine that is normally aspirated and better than 100% V.E.
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ok so tunnel rams are cool but is that why your using one. I am building an engine that I hope will see north of 400 hp with a edelbrock torker II and single carb 600cfm. Now the torker II might need to be replaced with a victor style intake to make the numbers i want but it will be dam close either way.

For your setup a victor jr with the 750 dp is the goal anything else will be fluff and for looks.

Most people running a ram are far north of 400 hp. usally in the 500 to 700 range. Better to use a more street able intake with a single carb than to go wild with tunnel rams and dual carbs.

That being said if someone gave me the intake i would surely bolt it on to something. But not sure it would be a good choice for a panel van. and rpm air gap would run the number with less effort in tuning and much less cost.

If you already have a linkage for tunnel ram that works stick with that setup. Buying new linkage can actually cost more than the manifold. Sometimes you have to run what you got.

Is this a race car or street car?
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bygddy, You did not mention what gears are you running and how much it weighs? What tranny you are using?
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A tunnel ram is one of the key ingredients to make an engine that is normally aspirated and better than 100% V.E.
( i'll finish it for ya )

... ON A FULL RACE ENGINE.

( Which is why you see them fancy fabricated sheet metal intakes on them super-high RPM drag motors. )
Lets not even talk about the heads to match this kind of a setup.

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Not really for full race engines. Just for one that is built to race but not really all out. Tunnel rams give more tq and hp with a longer tuned intake length and larger ports to allow for more air to flow throught the carbs.

And it does build up intake velocity that would be good for 100% ve engines.

They do work even if a little old school.

I Really like hilborns for the same reasons.
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Well, I'm glad you hate tunnel rams! Because I was honestly concerned about Your opinion on my choice of intake. Fk, that mighta kept me up at night wondering, thank god you voiced your opinion as now I can get a sound nights sleep.
And yes.......my poor uneducated brain was able to suffiently add the 2 carbs cfm rating together successfully. Did you know that if I run 2 650' s that its 1300 cfm? Or to 450's its 900cfm, or 2 850's its 1700 cfm? I can keep this up all night.....
Timing and tune....you can make the 750's work well......

Hahahaha.
Yeah, gotta have someone to kick around up here. It can be me. I volunteer.

Tunnel-Rams are stupid for several reasons.
( least of which is all the boat nerds think they are cool )

You see them all the time at car shows. They stick up real high, and people think 2 carbs looks cooler than 1 carb.
Looks like YOU are in that category. You go girl. Whatever floats your boat.

Fabricated tunnel rams belong on ProStock engines, and Pro-mod/Outlaw drag motors.
But hey, if you like the way they look, good for you. Run it.
I know people who think chrome hood hinges are cool.

Funny how defensive you got when I expressed my opinion.
( Like I kicked your dog or something. )
Tunnel Rams on street motors are GAY. You won't see one on my street engine!

Have a nice day, pal.

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some people think that pick ups are street cars? aero dynamics of a house,,,to each their own true.
I choose a small block single 4 bbl to beat up big blocks/blower cars/tunnel ram cars and my car can turn corners without rolling the tires off the rims,,,
to each their own
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Hahahaha.
Yeah, gotta have someone to kick around up here. It can be me. I volunteer.

Tunnel-Rams are stupid for several reasons.
( least of which is all the boat nerds think they are cool )

You see them all the time at car shows. They stick up real high, and people think 2 carbs looks cooler than 1 carb.
Looks like YOU are in that category. You go girl. Whatever floats your boat.

Fabricated tunnel rams belong on ProStock engines, and Pro-mod/Outlaw drag motors.
But hey, if you like the way they look, good for you. Run it.
I know people who think chrome hood hinges are cool.

Funny how defensive you got when I expressed my opinion.
( Like I kicked your dog or something. )
Tunnel Rams on street motors are GAY. You won't see one on my street engine!

Have a nice day, pal.

Lol, "you go girl" cute, and remotely entertaining.....but at the end of the day, yep, I like how they look, I have zero issue with that. In my junk, they don't actually "stick way up" but that's OK, it isn't a "fabricated" tunnel ram either. Its a good old fashioned plane Jane Weiand. I didn't get defensive, I simply reacted to a blunt, and unsolicited remark about how you hate my choice of intake....
Its going to have good old gold moroso valve covers, velocity stacks on top of the ridiculous 2 carbs, bright yellow accel wires, and I will likely paint my alum heads to hide them.....might even throw on a chrome Rad cap cause i won't have hinges....and im ok with, even look forward to a 70's cheeseball street rod theme....except it will hopefully actually perform half decent. I don't know you, your post wasn't constructive, or help full, or even up for an entertaining debate....pay attention, I can argue with several people here, sometimes even heated.....but most offer an opinion based on something constructive......as opposed to "boat guys hate em" or the one that really shows your level of intelligence.... "tunnel rams on street motors are gay" again, it seems I have been suckered into a debate with someone who has been here all of a month and means zero to me in the grand scheme of things........hang around a few years and get back to me with something intelligent or constructive and then we can have a real debate....till then your nothing but a guy with a half decent looking truck and a pss poor attitude....
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