Hotrodders Bulletin Board Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Home · Bulletin Board · Project Journals · Tech Article Wiki · Knowledge Base · Photo Gallery · Classifieds · Company Reviews · Calendar · T-Shirts


Thanks!Thanks Streetbeasts lawsuit donors!thanks
See the full list of donors helping to protect free speech.

We're winning the case!
Get the latest update on the lawsuit, see the original lawsuit post, or read the article Streetbeasts doesn't want you to see.

Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts
Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help > Transmission - Rearend
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 12-24-2005, 07:19 PM
Bumpstick's Avatar
Bumpstick Bumpstick is offline
Hammer and a torch
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Southeast TX
Age: 49
Posts: 1,259
Wiki Edits: 0

Turbo 400 yoke question...?

Did a swap from a turbo 350 to a turbo 400 along with yokes of course (was a bolt in turbo 400)... Went to 1350 yokes on both ends (12 bolt rear end also)... Had the drive shaft built after what I thought was good close measuring... This is a 69 C10 with the ladder type rear suspension and is lowered approx 2 1/2 inches from stock height so not alot of travel is left...

How much travel in the yoke do I need...? As of right now I have about 1/2" before it bottoms out... I do not carry anything but race the truck (has a BBC powering it approx 450hp)...

Recommendations...?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-24-2005, 07:47 PM
xntrik's Avatar
xntrik xntrik is offline
Save a horse, Ride a Cowboy.
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 5,131
Wiki Edits: 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumpstick
Did a swap from a turbo 350 to a turbo 400 along with yokes of course (was a bolt in turbo 400)... Went to 1350 yokes on both ends (12 bolt rear end also)... Had the drive shaft built after what I thought was good close measuring... This is a 69 C10 with the ladder type rear suspension and is lowered approx 2 1/2 inches from stock height so not alot of travel is left...

How much travel in the yoke do I need...? As of right now I have about 1/2" before it bottoms out... I do not carry anything but race the truck (has a BBC powering it approx 450hp)...

Recommendations...?


I would recommend at least 1/4 inch from bottomed out at its deepest point for engine mount flex.

Since you have that suspension lowered that much here's what I would do if it were mine...
I would unbolt the rear joint, push the yoke into the trans all the way and measure how far the yoke arm is from the tailshaft with the arm horizontal.
Rebolt the rear joint and then load the truck to full suspension travel.
Measure the points again and see how much is left..... I would like to see that 1/4 inch for rubber engine mount flex.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-25-2005, 11:37 AM
dgcantrellsr dgcantrellsr is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Duffield ,Va
Age: 62
Posts: 407
Wiki Edits: 0

Put chassis (frame) on stands (4) places and let rear end drop to its lowest point and see if you still got clearance.
I have run some 4 link applictions with no more than 1/2 in.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-25-2005, 01:13 PM
Bumpstick's Avatar
Bumpstick Bumpstick is offline
Hammer and a torch
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Southeast TX
Age: 49
Posts: 1,259
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks on the replies... Will be checking several ways this afternoon after the dinner wears off... (if I can get under it again...?)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-25-2005, 01:45 PM
66GMC's Avatar
66GMC 66GMC is offline
Get in, sit down, hang on
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Olds, Alberta Canada
Age: 52
Posts: 1,483
Wiki Edits: 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumpstick
Did a swap from a turbo 350 to a turbo 400 along with yokes of course (was a bolt in turbo 400)... Went to 1350 yokes on both ends (12 bolt rear end also)... Had the drive shaft built after what I thought was good close measuring... This is a 69 C10 with the ladder type rear suspension and is lowered approx 2 1/2 inches from stock height so not alot of travel is left...

How much travel in the yoke do I need...? As of right now I have about 1/2" before it bottoms out... I do not carry anything but race the truck (has a BBC powering it approx 450hp)...

Recommendations...?


Here's a link to a driveline shop's recomendations:
http://www.iedls.com/measure.html

HTH,
Don
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-25-2005, 02:08 PM
xntrik's Avatar
xntrik xntrik is offline
Save a horse, Ride a Cowboy.
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 5,131
Wiki Edits: 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by dgcantrellsr
Put chassis (frame) on stands (4) places and let rear end drop to its lowest point and see if you still got clearance.
I have run some 4 link applictions with no more than 1/2 in.



He is worried about the yoke bottoming out in the transmission. Not falling out into the floor.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-25-2005, 02:16 PM
xntrik's Avatar
xntrik xntrik is offline
Save a horse, Ride a Cowboy.
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 5,131
Wiki Edits: 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by 66GMC
Here's a link to a driveline shop's recomendations:
http://www.iedls.com/measure.html

HTH,
Don


That only works IF they are supplying the entire shaft AND the front yoke... which they are....... yokes might vary as to depth on the trans shaft, that is, the distance from the tail shaft end to the u-joint centerline.

With an existing yoke, you push it in all the way and measure center of the front u-joint to the center of the rear U-joint, then subtract for the desired clearance.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-25-2005, 02:18 PM
johnsongrass1's Avatar
johnsongrass1 johnsongrass1 is offline
Race it, Don't rice it!
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Columbia, Mo
Age: 33
Posts: 3,838
Wiki Edits: 0

my driveshaft guy say's to bottom the yoke out then pull it out 1", measure center of yokes as a final measurment.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-25-2005, 02:41 PM
xntrik's Avatar
xntrik xntrik is offline
Save a horse, Ride a Cowboy.
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 5,131
Wiki Edits: 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnsongrass1
my driveshaft guy say's to bottom the yoke out then pull it out 1", measure center of yokes as a final measurment.


That is what I said in my last post, except I said ----- bottom it, measure, then subtract the desired clearance from your measurement.

1" clearance where/when ?? (it constantly changes during suspension travel).... at ride height or when the suspension is loaded for the driveshaft to be pushed into the transmission as far as it might??
The only reason the clearance is there is to prevent the yoke from bottoming out in the transmission, which is Bump's concern.

I have seen people measure at ride height and add that inch on a short yoke and when the suspension unloaded the yoke was so far out it twisted on the trans splines, cracked the yoke which angled off a few degrees and the front of the driveshaft flew out just like it had broken a front joint... Oh Oh..... some identical looking yokes have shorter splines inside. You want as much spline contact as possible for strength.

BUMPSTICK has a close clearance at ride height and needs to know if suspension travel will bottom it out into the transmission. Hence he has to load the truck down.

He might end up having to shorten the driveshaft 1/2 inch.....

FOOD>>> FOOD>>>
Reply With Quote
Reply Back to top


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads for: "Turbo 400 yoke question...?"
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
350 turbo to 400 turbo swap in lemans?? mtmniles Transmission - Rearend 8 01-24-2006 12:40 AM
turbo 400 not working 49dream Transmission - Rearend 4 03-05-2005 07:18 PM
GM Turbo 400 trans front seal housing question Gary Shugart Introduce Yourself 1 01-13-2005 02:56 PM
a turbo question. Super Chevy Engine 16 01-24-2004 02:44 AM
7ooR4 vs 400 turbo? WBhunter Hotrodders' Lounge 4 04-25-2002 01:54 PM



Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 2.3.2 © 2005, Crawlability, Inc.
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:39 AM.
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2009. All Rights Reserved.