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Torsion bars??!?
Yes Im going to use a torsion setup in the rear of the car, no need for a smooth ride.
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I wish you would take the time to actually read and understand what i have been saying. THIS IS MY FIRST V8 BUILD. I know the tranny isnt going to withstand it, i know the rear end isnt going to withstand it. I have been doing research on this as well. I KNOW i am going to need subframe connectors, torsion bars, probably going to go with blistein suspension with oversized sway bars, strut tower connectors. As i get farther into the build ill realize that what all i need to make this come together. But right now im not to that point... If you dont agree with my build then you dont have to sit here and slam everything i want to do. This build is only an experiment, if it fails oh well, if i crack the block oh well, if you dont agree with it OH WELL

I'm cheering you on bud! Surprise all these bs slingers here =D
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this has turned into a interesting thread. but cobalt is right, someone new might come on here and actually think this is something that can be done, and blow 40k on it and start it up and see all his money going up in smoke.

it really seems like you havent done enough research on this project to come on here and throw numbers and ideas out, your not really asking factual questions that someone could answer based on information you are providing.

i am a ford guy myself, but there are alot of guys on here that know way to much about these chevy engines.

why dont you just build yourself a nice 500 hp V8 engine for your first one, which is an extremly powerful engine, and i mean 500 at the rear wheels and run it until the wheels fall off, and then go from there. you might realize that this intial high your getting from a tt setup was way out of reality.
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Anyway, getting back to the engine, specifically the block.

Imsport referenced a site, Gale Banks. One of the very best for turbo applications, bar none. GB is who I had hoped you were going to say you were consulting with, but I digress...

Here's what Banks has to say- in part- about the block for his SBC builds:

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The 4.125" bore custom block is built to Banks' specs by Dart. It is cast from a high nickel alloy and is equipped with splayed main caps and ARP head studs for superior strength.
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Bigger engines add power, but turbocharging bigger engines really gets the job done. Happily, there’s more good news associated with turbocharging the small-block Chevy V8, and almost all of it comes down to durability. To begin, the performance industry offers a variety of high-strength cylinder blocks in both iron and aluminum. Thicker main webs and four-bolt main caps are just what a turbocharged engine needs. Next, the small-block Chevy uses five head bolts or studs surrounding each cylinder to help secure head gaskets. And of course, the aftermarket has a variety of premium head gaskets too. Then there are other heavy-duty parts readily available, such as forged crankshafts, forged connecting rods, forged pistons, special piston pins, and premium rings and bearings.
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lol... cobalt pretty soon you will have enough information on this subject to build one yourself.
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lol... cobalt pretty soon you will have enough information on this subject to build one yourself.
Nah, I'm a BS slinger. I'm here to learn from majoroweage and the other one. LOL
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Yes Im going to use a torsion setup in the rear of the car, no need for a smooth ride.
Torsion bars on a solid axle?!?!?! I call BS. Or did you mean sway bars? A twin turbo SBC can certainly make 1000hp, but the skills, knowledge and money required are significant and specialized. I see no problem doing the engine for $16,000 and the turbo setup for $9,000, not including fuel supply components. And that would be with a $2000 Bowtie block. Figure $3000 to put it in the car. Then start on the driveline.
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show me where it says you CANT run a tt 1000hp stock block sbc. Anything can be done with enough money and ingenuity.

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Nah, I'm a BS slinger. I'm here to learn from majoroweage and the other one. LOL
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:05 PM
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Don't let haters put you down. You CAN build a 1000hp sbc with a 4 bolt block.

You don't need all the fancy lifters and such. A moderate cam will do, especially with turbos.

forged internals (go with american ie oliver rods and ohio crank, lunati, etc, not eagle crap), billet caps, and a girdle.
moderate cam-do NOT go crazy! Boost will hold your torque curve long after it has left its power range.

http://members.jasnetworks.net/mjsit...T/BudgetTT.htm

these guys did a 10 second twin turbo car with less than 1k. Check it out =D
"I'm cheering you on bud! Surprise all these bs slingers here =D"

OK so were is the BS coming from?

The fastest to date time slip for this capri is 10.44 sec at 132MPH, if that car weighs in at say 3300 lbs, then we are talking about 575HP at the wheels give or take, this 351TT motor is not even from the same junk yard as the 1000 HP SBC he is trying to build, in other words the BS is being slung from some where else.
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It's just a story of ingenuity. When's the last time someone built a 10 second car for less than 1k?

Oh and by the way, with the intercooler it's in the 9's
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show me where it says you CANT run a tt 1000hp stock block sbc. Anything can be done with enough money and ingenuity.
Were you not the brainiac who does not even know how the cylinder walls of an engine are lubricated?

If I were you, I'd be careful who you call out.
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"Thicker main webs and four-bolt main caps are just what a turbocharged engine needs."

Hmmm I already have a 4 bolt main motor.... That i plan on sending off to be machined to use studs instead of main bolts... And upgrading my main caps. So bottom end, done...

If everyone is so hell bent on deterring me from my build, how would you like to see this motor built? I want parts list, hp+tq numbers, and approx cost.

The block is already a 355...

Here it is, have at it...
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If everyone is so hell bent on deterring me from my build, how would you like to see this motor built?
I would LOVE it if you "built" this thing. Gotta grow that economy, and everyone knows about a fool and his money- best that it go back into the speed part industry. lol
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Refer back to my post #21, its a Gale Banks engineered SBC at 1100HP, call him for a price. You may not get an exact parts list from anyone cause you can't seem to get over the OEM block hurdle which has us shaking our heads and it has also haulted all effective support from coming your way.
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:28 PM
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Hmmm I already have a 4 bolt main motor.... That i plan on sending off to be machined to use studs instead of main bolts... And upgrading my main caps. So bottom end, done...
PLEASE!?! Stop it, you are killing me! ROF

Are you REALLY so clueless that you'd send out an OEM 4-bolt block for caps, studs and a line bore and hone???

Even the rankest beginner knows that a 2-bolt block w/splayed caps is the preferred way to go about it! LOL

Just because you have this ultra-tough OEM 4-bolt block that breaks tooling w/it's amazing metallurgy, DOES NOT make it what is needed.
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