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Old 10-05-2010, 09:31 AM
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Two tone masking questions.

I will be spraying the body of my car soon. It will be two tone just like my avatar. Just from doing my homework, my understanding is it's best to paint from top to bottom to avoid bumping your paint. Makes sense. What about when you're painting two tone and the darker color is on top? I plan to spray the orange first a little ways past the division line. The spec sheet says to let the paint cure for 8 hours before taping / masking. Mask, then spray the black.

Would this be the best way, or should I do the black first and then orange? Doing black first seems like it'll pose masking issues (ie black showing through orange).
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I'm kinda unclear about where you would have black showing through the orange. Aren't you going to have a sharp division between black and orange?

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Correct. There will be a sharp division between the two colors. I guess what I'm asking is, what is the best way to do so? I was thinking I would spray the orange first slightly up past my mask line. Attached are some examples I put together.

Then, mask off the car for black and shoot. Does this seem right?
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What I was trying to say earlier is if I did the black first using the above method, there would be color difference in the orange where the black overlapped, correct? I hope I'm explaining this correct.
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Your not going to have chrome strip or pin striping along the division line?

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Use 3M's Fineline masking tape and place it right on the edge of the black and lay on the orange so that the two colors do not overlap, but they butt up flush with each other.

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are you using single stage or base/clear??
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Your not going to have chrome strip or pin striping along the division line?

Vince
There are a couple of options. I could use the trim line to cover where the two tone meets, or I could use the body crease. I'm thinking that using the trim line would better to hide the slit in color.

This image shows a good example of how some people make use of the body lines for the two tone.

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Use 3M's Fineline masking tape and place it right on the edge of the black and lay on the orange so that the two colors do not overlap, but they butt up flush with each other.

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Makes sense. I have some 3M fine line masking tape. I'll give that a try.
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Old 10-05-2010, 11:09 AM
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are you using single stage or base/clear??
Well, actually both. I'm painting with single stage followed by clear.

2 coats s/s
2 coats clear
cut orange peel with 400 - 600
1 flow coat of clear
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i would spray the orange then fine line your cut off point mask it and spray black .. this becauser the black will cover with the least amount of coats and reduce the hard line. apply multiple coats of clear to allow wet sand the line smooth and re-clear with 2 coats resulting with a smooth transition between colors
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Since it is solid colors, nib off with somewhere around 400 grit the color change line before clear coating, it will sereiously lessen the presence of the change when the finish is touched. The other option is masking it and let the other color show basically an orange pinstripe in the black and black pinstripe in the orange and then nib the edges with 320. believe me, it is the best way to avoid feeling the color change in the finished product. It'll use way less clearcoat to cover the line.
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I've done a number of two tone paint jobs and I have always done it the way you have mentioned before. Spray the orange a little past where you want the line then mask it off and spray then black. What kind of base coat system will you be using? The waiting 8 hours seems pretty steep for masking time. If you are worried about disturbing the pearl in the base coat with a tape line then spray an inter coat clear over the orange before you mask it off. It just insures you that the orange will not be disturbed.
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Thanks for all the tips, guys.
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Also depends on the booth, If your using a downdraft I'd do the top first , if its a cross draft I would do the bottom first.
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