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Old 08-13-2005, 10:32 PM
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updating '46 plymouth front end--subframe??

I am starting to customize a '46 plymouth sedan and want to update or even clip the front end. I want ps pb(discs) and to be able to put a v8 under the hood. Lower if possable and definately try to KEEP IT MOPAR (powerplant wise). I've done the volare clip, heard it worked great, installed easily enough, not happy with it. Once it's in, there isn't a whole lot you can do with it, and in the vehicle I put it in ('56 GMC Pick-up) it handles like crap.

I'm a very low buck guy but don't mind working with old stuff and rebuilding.

Any ideas would be help.

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I have heard that the Dodge Dakota clips are pretty good......................
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Old 08-14-2005, 07:42 PM
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i was just asked about this by another hotrodder's member and this is what i told him. i'm not subframing, but swapping my frame.

Originally Posted by TWOPLYM
hey man u said u used a dekota frame can u be more specific, i think i need to do the same i have too many fabricated mounts and still need better suspension is frame the same?


you're in for a lot of work if you want to switch frames. my original frame was patched in a couple places and i didn't want to spend a lot of $ on brake and power rack conversions, i figured this would have cost me around $1500. my floor was gone in the car so i figured i'd channel the car and use the dakota frame because it already has disc brakes and a power rack and i was hoping to use the V6 mounts, thinking i could put a smallblock in without any problems, but it won't work with a 360 as there's different mounts. you might be alright with a 318.

anyway, it was a lot of work just taking apart the truck and getting everything off the frame. you wouldn't believe how many little clips and screws and other **** is on a frame. i used a '88 dakota reg. cab long box and the wheelbase was 5" too long. i ended up switching around my front and rear leaf mounts to make the leafs more level AND i had to move everything up 5" AND i put in shorter leafs so I could get the rear leaf mount further ahead so I could shorten the rear frame rails so they would clear the slantback on my car when I channeled it. The rear frame rails are quite high. i also had to make a crossmember for my shocks. i am using the drivetrain from a '79 newport with a 8-1/4" rearend and i wanted to keep the shocks and mounts from the newport so i made the crossmember to work with the newport rear. i've read on the internet that the 6cyl. dakota rearends don't stand up very well.

so that's about everything i know so far. right now i'm getting ready to build the step over the frame for the floor and i've got some body braces made to be welded to the frame. it is a lot of work. i am channeling the car but the frame still has quite a lot of clearance. there is dropped spindles available but they are pretty rare for a '88. if you're going to use a dakota frame go with something newer as there's more upgrades available. that's one thing i don't like is the ride height of the frame. even with my leafs changed and the mounts moved, it still sits quite high.

hope this helps.


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