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vettesplus 03-29-2013 11:29 AM

Upgraded garage accomodations for the new streetrod (pics)
 
After needing to bend down to walk under my 34 Pontiac on my lift so i decided to pop the ceiling in my garage. 4 days later it is done except for final mud coat, sanding and paint.....
9' x 14' and 20" tall, 10' 3" ceiling to 12' coffer

Started with this...
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps2a696196.jpg

Plenty of clearance with the vettes...
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...age2010002.jpg

First day of tear-out...
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psa0ffd907.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psacf76a5e.jpg

Box out recess and remove trusses...
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psa514a8ca.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psf26703c7.jpg
Relocate wiring and heat ducts...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psac3b964a.jpg
Install insulation...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps157145ba.jpg
hang drywall...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psfba6e91e.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps27f55d9e.jpg
Bullnose edging, tape and mud...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps66d0e6be.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psfda6f6d5.jpg
Trial Fit....like a glove...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps6bc79ec3.jpg
Walk under her without even touching my head...
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps442b3fe6.jpg

Trucknut 03-29-2013 01:00 PM

Great idea. Great job:thumbup:

sedanbob 03-29-2013 02:13 PM

That lift makes a great work platform for that work! I'll do the same if I ever get a lift (want one bad)!

69lm69gp 04-01-2013 12:06 PM

What style of truss do you have and did you have some one design the coffer?

I think you have the same truss design as I do, and I would like to do the same thing when I get to the point of getting a lift.

2old2fast 04-01-2013 02:13 PM

Not trying to be a jerk but I think you need to be told , by cutting your trusses the way you did & not building back in at least some of the strength you removed you've really compromised the integrity of your roof structure. I have nearly 40 years in the remodeling business.
dave

sedanbob 04-01-2013 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2old2fast (Post 1662302)
Not trying to be a jerk but I think you need to be told , by cutting your trusses the way you did & not building back in at least some of the strength you removed you've really compromised the integrity of your roof structure. I have nearly 40 years in the remodeling business.
dave

After seeing your comment, I went back and looked at the pic again. I'm not sure he's weakened the roof significantly. The top of the coffer, now acting as a bottom chord of the truss, extends to the top chords all the way across the span. If he were to have designed the coffer into the original trusses, they wouldn't look that different. The load is now being carried through the new bottom chord, and the original ceiling is now acting like a soffit, with the only weight on it being itself and the sheetrock. Just my opinion.

2old2fast 04-01-2013 03:12 PM

Except that now the majority of the roof load is being carried by the roof rafters which in an engineered coffer truss would have been increased in width [2x6 to probably 2x10] , plus the new framing members are spiked to the sides of the remaining structure ,not nearly as strong as the original "truss plate" system..

dave

vettesplus 04-01-2013 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2old2fast (Post 1662302)
Not trying to be a jerk but I think you need to be told , by cutting your trusses the way you did & not building back in at least some of the strength you removed you've really compromised the integrity of your roof structure. I have nearly 40 years in the remodeling business.
dave

thanks for your comment, i had my truss engineer who designs all my trusses for my houses go over what i did. after alot of thought between both of us i took his 30 years of truss engineering experience and ran with it. i have been building custom homes for over 20 years and have done many truss cutting additions, with input from my engineers and have never had a problem. the top cord carries back to the left almost 10' to help with the load. in theory we did not remove the bottom cord we just raised it 20" and shortened all the webbing boards. it is actually stronger than it was before i began the build...what is missing from the pictures is my additional bracing that was installed with truss plates. everything was framed in before i removed any cords or webs, so that i did not get any kind of sag during construction. i did a very similar coffer job in my buddies garage about 5 years ago. to this day it has not even a hairline crack in his finished ceiling. he has had numerous 2-3 foot snow drift on his roof without any kind of comprimise...

p.s i dont think your a jerk for giving your opionion...ed

vettesplus 04-01-2013 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedanbob (Post 1662304)
After seeing your comment, I went back and looked at the pic again. I'm not sure he's weakened the roof significantly. The top of the coffer, now acting as a bottom chord of the truss, extends to the top chords all the way across the span. If he were to have designed the coffer into the original trusses, they wouldn't look that different. The load is now being carried through the new bottom chord, and the original ceiling is now acting like a soffit, with the only weight on it being itself and the sheetrock. Just my opinion.

thats kind of how my engineer pointed out the final outcome also....:thumbup:

MARTINSR 04-01-2013 08:25 PM

Well I have to tell you guys thanks for giving me an education. I had to go to google to get an understanding of your terms being I know nothing. But with your posts and a little study I learned a lot about roof construction, thanks. Every term I have used for chords and trusses and what not were wrong.

Brian

Kevin316 04-17-2013 07:21 PM

Your garage looks great. If you could repost the picks of your reno that would be great.

Jim Rockford 05-22-2013 08:13 AM

yea 90% of the pics no longer work...


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