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Old 06-20-2010, 11:56 AM
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Used car lot paintjob nightmares, or how in the hell am I going to fix this? LOL

Recently purchased a 1995 Lincoln Town Car from a friend who needed money. It ran well and seated six, seemed to be in good enough shape for a spare car.
It was raining when I purchased it and I did not notice it at first but the soft top portion was originally a tan colored cloth.

It had since been repainted with some cheap enamel paint a color that I presume was originally gloss black, but has since faded to a less obnoxious satin to flat black color.

I know he did it, and I presume the tan top had some staining from dead leaves and walnuts on it from where it was parked.

I know that he meant well and I should have looked closer and noticed this mess before I purchased it, but at the time my concerns were mostly mechanical.

This car has a full front to back soft top that even goes into the top of the doors.

My first thought was to rip the whole thing off and try to save the paint underneath it.

I have since looked at it better and do not think that would be a very easy way to deal with this mess, but if my only option was to rip it off or replace it, I will rip it off.

At this point I can see myself masking off the car and trying to paint over the existing awful paint and try to make the top look consistent in color, but I do not know what the paint is doing to the top fabric. I suppose it could preserve it, but on the other hand it is just as likely to promote the break down of the materials the top is made of and cause the kind of mess that will make certain that I have to strip the top off of the car and do the work right.

The original intention in purchasing this car was to use it as a spare, not to make it look better, but this is one of those imperfections that I have a hard time looking at every day.

It looks like it came off of a super shady used car lot I used to drive by on my way to South Bend Indiana.

What should I do with it?

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Old 06-20-2010, 06:42 PM
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haha

Sounds like Fun!

Re-paint Everything

im surprised no picture for that story?
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My dad had one of those, the top was a mess, all stained from the redwood trees he parked it under, peeling back at the windshield and rear window, and he wound up giving it away because to replace it would have cost more than the car was worth spending on..Tear it off, and you'll find that the paint underneath is less appealing than the soft top, as they usually glue those tops on..(they probably didn't even paint the roof before they put that cloth on) IIRC, there are trim pieces that look really out of place without the fabric.

Cheap fix- paint it with aircraft dope, over the cheap enamel and walnut stains...It'll be just like an old fabric covered plane.

Or do it right and replace it.

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Old 06-20-2010, 07:20 PM
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I would think taht if there was damage to the fabric, it would already be done by whatever your friend painted it with,,,,,

I would just paint it again with a vinyl paint.
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Old 06-20-2010, 08:14 PM
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Maybe some rhino guard, would give it texture.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:21 AM
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How close to Detroit are you? Pimp it, 25 inch donks, coupla boom boom speakers, gold metal flake, make a few bucks...
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vinyl top crap

I need to restore my wife's 67 ford. the top is toast. There is only a flash coat of primer and rust and the body seams just had a gob of lead near the drip rails and edge chrome trim. The lead was not even ground, with the padding under the original vinyl that didn't show thru. When I worked at Ford, quality control would look the other way on vinyl top units, not even check mil thickness for minimum top coat specifications,
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Hate to say it... spray cans anyone...

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How close to Detroit are you? Pimp it, 25 inch donks, coupla boom boom speakers, gold metal flake, make a few bucks...
Arrgh!! Just seen one yesterday. I wouldn't give a sheet if some one ruins there car, but it was an older pontiac tempest that looked pretty decent otherwise. Maybe he took a wrong turn in Detroit and somehow crossed the big lake and wound up here. Sure hope It doesn't catch on more here. But then I don't drive around on the east side too often, and based on the major ethnic background in a few areas over on there, it could be a bit more popular.
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what you could do is re-paint it a flat tan color. Just scuff it and re-paint.
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How close to Detroit are you? Pimp it, 25 inch donks, coupla boom boom speakers, gold metal flake, make a few bucks...
We done this several times with caprices, lincolns, ect.... Until we lost our connection with the 'hood! Apparently he was involved with some other bad deallings and we never saw him again. Me and my partner were to scared to go into the neighborhood he was from so........
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Vinyl dye it. it is around 50.00 per pint but it works great and is ready to just dump in your paint gun and spray.
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If the top, which was probably some kind of convertible top material like Haartz or Topline, hadn't been painted that would be an option. Once it's painted it's toast as far as vinyl dye goes, it would never stick. Taking off the top would be a chore, and then you'd have to get the contact adhesive (and possibly a layer of closed cell foam) completely off before you did anything to the roof. There would be at least primer under the top, and possibly paint because they would have dipped the entire car in primer. Poncho is right, just repaint it.
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