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THere were a number of 4 clyinder turbo cars in the mid to late 80's that people drove to highschool. They were NOT fast in any sense of the word. Like the sunbird gt, merkur xr4ti , lebaron gt, probe gt, dodge daytona , hyundai scoop, and were some major flops.

Not sure what you are thinking that made them fast. They could not even pull a 9 sec 0-60 . Todays honda civic would smoke them.
the dodge daytona and xr4ti can flat out haul *** when properly modified. Turbo, ECU, injectors, exhaust, and methanol/intercooling being most of what it needs.

those cars can easily hit 400hp on pump fuel and when you cut a little of the extra weight you end up with something pretty quick.

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I drove to high school in these vehicles catching rides with friends. They were Not fast. I have no idea what you are smoking. The Xr4ti was 5 speed and could barely squeak the tires. The daytona/laser turbo was junk , i dont think it made 140 hp.

Do you have any video of them from the 80's . Like a car and driver road test.

Not into these racing videos. They dont show hardware.

Faster car in the junior/ senior parking lot was a grand national.

the t bird made 142hp in 86

the svo made 175 hp in 86 and could barely make 7.5 secound in 0-60

If you said 1000hp, im out. You are a dreamer.

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Well dunno for sure on this but I do know that several of the Model A guys have installed the 2.3 in their cars to get a late model engine trans into the stock A to give some reasonable street performance. O fcourse those guys were not looking ot shred tires but to get down the road and keep up wiht trafic which they do..

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crazy fast .
Crazy all right.
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Post 22 corrections.

Svo should read - Xr4ti made 175hp. No highschool kid is going to throw aftermarket parts on their parents new car voiding its warranty.

Never drove/rode in a svo.
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The super coupe T bird 2.3 intercooled made 190 horses in 88. 230 ish in torque.
No doubt some more boost and a stroker kit and you could have some decent potential.
Also why not a small pro charger to do the job.
Bore it, stroke it, pro charger hmmmmmm..........................
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Yeah ok your drove an xr 5 speed and it wouldnt squeak the tires? Sure your right. They may not be super fast but they ran 15 bone stock and were usally spinning the tires half way down the track. Drive one and tell me they are really that slow.

Also the svo i actually owned and did drive for many years was not slow by any means it put a lot of big blocks down. With 29 lbs of boost it probably lay waste to your current car. I know a few guys with xr's well built they are crazy fast and stock brand new they were also pretty quick. Hard to think you even rode in one before. Most turbo cars will spinn the tires easily with a little slip of the clutch to raise the boost up first.

Svo is 205 hp and 248lbs tq not bad considering the vette Was only 90hp north of that in 86.
What the hell does this post this mean?

Drive one, they have not been at the dealer in over 20 years
slipping the clutch? you think i cant drive stick?
Tires barely squeal slipping first, but in 4 th gear locked up WATCH out.
29 lbs of boost, whatever. Go read comic books son.
Civics can make 200hp NA
Apply the same boost and mods to a new honda as a 1988 2.3L mustang
How many sv mustangs sold in 88? How many GTs?

Dodge had a shelby line GL turbo vehicles too. They were junk. Even with the MP super 60 add ons.

A 2.3L would be nice in model A. Keep it simple and reliable.

The 2.3L was the same 4 cylinder in the tempo/ topaz.

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Wrong they would not fit in a tempo. They are rear wheel only in larger cars like rangers and mustangs.

Fyi were the same age.

I have a turbo civic it makes about 200 hp. But was 100 hp stock like all most every civic sold in the last 15 years. D16y7... Certainly not as fast as my svo was.

Dodge Glhs was a great little car. Faster than a shelby cobra. Look it up.
New civics have a 2.0L. Why not 29lbs of boost.

Bore x stroke, is there any difference in 2.3's

So the shelby cobra ran a 7.2 0-60?
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What a waste of a turbo, 200hp. The 2.0 honda K makes that NA.
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The 87 glhs wt 2675 , 135 ohc 4 , VNT turbo. 0-60 7.2 and standing 15.1/90mph, 175hp .

A cobra its not.
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There is no substitute for cubic inches, this is the "Hot Rodders" web site, right?

Put a V-8 in that C-Cab and uncork the headers... good cost effective horsepower that sounds oh so sweet.

There's a reason Hot Rodders abandoned the banger motors in 1932, and that reason is the V-8.
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The 2.3 fords are different.

Anyways. Sorry about the mess. Good luck with your model A.
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There is no substitute for cubic inches, this is the "Hot Rodders" web site, right?

Put a V-8 in that C-Cab and uncork the headers... good cost effective horsepower that sounds oh so sweet.

There's a reason Hot Rodders abandoned the banger motors in 1932, and that reason is the V-8.
There's a substitute- boost pressure.
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There's a substitute- boost pressure.
Sure,... in a Honda Civic, with a fart can...

Boost... how about an over-driven old school GMC 8-71 atop a V-8? Now that's awesome!

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Wow did this get carried away

But don't get me wrong it is fun. I am not going to put a V8 in this car. I have vehicles for going fast. I don't think as light as this car will be that I need or want 300hp. My intention is for it to be a little differnt and be fun to drive. 140 to 150 hp would be plenty for this light car in my opinion and getting to that number with a turbo and slightly built 2.3L would be easy and very forgiving on the quality of fuel ya get at the pump. And after all it's all about power to weight ratio. If you have a 200hp car that weighs 3300 to 3400 lbs and a under 2000 lbs car with 150 hp and everything else being equal at the drag strip they will run pretty close. With the edge going to the lighter car. But this car is NOT about racing. It's about fun and the question I posed was to find someone that had run this engine will a slight build in a true lightweight car. And to get info on building the engine for what I want. And I wish to thank the folks that have contributed to those ends. I am know for doing differnt things. And have considered at one point and time since I have a background in Marine turbine propulsion too. of putting a turbine in the car. But dismissed that idea because of the cost. And it would be too complicated for a fun car. So I'm back to my first question has anyone done this that's on this site that could share their opinions on the results. Thanks Bill
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