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Old 02-18-2009, 01:34 PM
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Sounds kinda like what I did. I bought my bug for $500, sold the pan and other parts and got most of it back. Enough so I could buy a S10 frame and parts.

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thanks here it is
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:50 PM
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No problem! That's a standard beetle. Keep me posted on your progress. Looks like the body is in really good shape and you have everything the need but fenders.
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The body is real nice. I have the fenders, seats and steering column, that was all included just not in the picture.
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What about using Suzuki Samurai they should be pretty small
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:35 PM
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They very well might be the same springs? But yeah, looks like they would fit.
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I found another thread there they were thinking of using trailer springs. What do you think. They are really cheep and come in all sizes. I found Suzuki Springs are 2inches wide and 38.5 inches Long.
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I'm sure trailer leaf springs would work, but I think that they're pretty narrow and you'll have to make up for that some how. Like using some grade 8 washers to make up for their narrow width.

Really, you could use any leaf springs that would fit under the car. Just keep in mind that each leaf spring has a different spring rate which you'll want to consider. You probably don't want anything with too high of a spring rate or your rear will be hopping off the ground when you run over a bump at higher speeds.

I think you're on the right track with the Samari springs cause they're made for a light vehicle and the body isn't really long after the wheel wells and neither is a beetles. Whatever springs you decide on be sure to get the springs and mock them up before you shorten the chassis so that way you'll have the correct wheelbase.


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Thanks again. you are right on the trailer spring the standard is 1.75 inches wide. i think im going to try the Samurai.
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Thanks again. you are right on the trailer spring the standard is 1.75 inches wide. i think im going to try the Samurai.

I was the one with the trailer spring thread. I'm using 30" eye to eye trailer leaf springs on our 350 powered 69 convertible vw project.

Bye using the stock front leaf spring mount on the s10 frame with these springs it made the wheel base of my chassis about 97.5" which is about 3" longer than the stock wheel base of our VW. I was wanting to lengthen the car a little to give more room for the 350 so it works out perfect for us, and I didn't have to cut the frame in the middle to shorten it

I Just turned some bushing spacers for the leaf springs to use the stock mounts and I'll be casting some custom urethane bushings for it this weekend. I'll try to get some new pictures of all this on my website sometime this weekend......
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Hey mate, was wondering how you acquired all of these skills that you've been using to build this car?

Do you work in an automotive trade?
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I was the one with the trailer spring thread. I'm using 30" eye to eye trailer leaf springs on our 350 powered 69 convertible vw project.

Bye using the stock front leaf spring mount on the s10 frame with these springs it made the wheel base of my chassis about 97.5" which is about 3" longer than the stock wheel base of our VW. I was wanting to lengthen the car a little to give more room for the 350 so it works out perfect for us, and I didn't have to cut the frame in the middle to shorten it

I Just turned some bushing spacers for the leaf springs to use the stock mounts and I'll be casting some custom urethane bushings for it this weekend. I'll try to get some new pictures of all this on my website sometime this weekend......
Hey zbhover, I've been following your work and remembering seeing all that you've done so far. You're moving along nicely. Going with the trailer leafs would definitely get you closer to the needed wheelbase. There's a guy on the net that built a V8 bug, but he built a custom tube chassis, and he lengthened his car 3". He did that to give it a slightly longer wheelbase to make it more stable on the drag strip from what I recall. Let us know how the trailer leafs work out. I had thought about using some at one point and even some jeep front leaf springs, but I didn't cause I thought they would make the car ride rough. Maybe they'll work just great. Keep us updated cause the more info the better.
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Old 02-20-2009, 09:04 AM
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Do you work in an automotive trade?
To be honest, I work as a graphic designer (technically, I'm an "Art Director") for a living. I've always been interested in doing things myself. It also has helped that my dad is a machine maintenance mechanic. I've learned quite a few things from my father cause he is always working on his project cars. He doesn't like newer cars with computers and has built many GM 350's. Other than learning a few things here and there from from my father I've also taken every shop / manufacturing class I could throughout high school. Those classes is where I learned some basics of welding with a stick welder. Most of what I have learned has actually been from researching on the net. You can learn to do just about anything with enough research. This project has really been quite the learning experience and a lot "firsts" for me.

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We are adding the 3" so that we'll have less of the trans. right up at your feet and give a little more room for the engine. I figure I'll be able to get by with a little smaller trans hump so I'll have more room for my big feet... LOL


I went with trailer springs that are rated at 2500lbs for the pair with 3 leaves each, it was either that or 1000lbs single leaf. I thought that 1000lbs springs might not be quite enough, and figure I can pull one or two of the leaves off of my set if they end up being too stiff. I bounced on the back of the frame with the old springs and new springs and it seems to be about the same, but we'll see.


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Last night I finished disassembling the chassis. What a DIRTY mess. The front of the frame is caked with dried up mud. I've got a lot of cleaning and sandblasting of small parts to do. My plan is to hopefully power wash the frame this weekend and I'll sand blast some parts here at work.









I went to autozone to see if they had a ball joint separator to rent and I didn't realize how many great tools they have to rent. From piston ring compressors, oil pump primers, etc. Lots of tools I'll need and almost bought. I'm glad I didn't buy any tools right away. I will end up buying a good valve spring compressor from summit cause the one autozone has isn't all that great.

More later...
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