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Vacuum wiper replacement

Can any Rambler fans provide some information on finding a suitable electric replacement wiper motor for a 1964 Rambler Classic Station Wagon? The engine (SBC) doesn't provide enough vacuum to reliably operate the vacuum wiper motor. A direct bolt-in unit would be great, but in lieu of that, we could probably do some fabrication and make something else fit. Can anyone point us in the right direction?? Thanks.

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That's a tough request as even in 1971 they still used vacuum wipers operated by a double action fuel pump (fuel from bottom diaphragm/vacuum from top diaphragm). Chevy into AMC is a popular swap and I think the wiper problem was fixed by a vacuum reservoir can similar to the kind they use for power brakes on big cam/low vacuum/automatic trans street rods.
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just get a SBC fuel pump with a vac pump. they exist because of the older 50's GM stuff having vac wipers and SBC's are a popular swap. www.chevsofthe40s.com sells them I think... otherwise, the electric wiper setup from a later Ambassador, Classic ect.. will work
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Newport Engineering makes many vacuum to electric wiper conversion kits. They don't have a listing on their website for Ramblers or any AMC's but it might be worth it to give them a call.

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So, I am gathering that a SBC with electric feul pump with vacuum wiper hooked to carb vacuum won;t have the ability to run the wiper?
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That's right. The engine doesn't produce enough vacuum to reliably operate the vacuum wiper motor. An electric substitute is preferred, to allow for delayed operation, and variable speeds. There seems to be only enough room under the cowl for a unit that has a "back and forth" sweep motion on the output shaft. So an electric motor with that same action is what I'm looking for. Not a motor unit that has a continuous rotary movement. Thanks for all the replies thus far.
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Imagine my surprise when I started modifying my 1971 Javelin finding Vacuum wipers run by the fuel pump.
I raced it for three years figuring if I don't have any problems I'll just let it ride. So, three years of 1/4 mi., auto cross, and rally's, and 89K mi. of idle to 6,000 rpm, I never had to replace it. My 68 AMX had the same system also.
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Newport Engineering makes many vacuum to electric wiper conversion kits. They don't have a listing on their website for Ramblers or any AMC's but it might be worth it to give them a call.

Good Luck...
Ask for Bob at Newport I think he would work with you. The motor is a lot bigger and might take up room that you don't want to loose under your dash, in that case you might have to run a cable, where the motor fits in the kick panel.

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Some General Motors vehicles with the Diesel motors had a vacuum pump ( 12 volt electric ) ... and it produces plenty of vacuum for the wipers. They were originally designed to supply vacuum for the brake boosters ... because the diesels did not have enough vacuum to make the boosters function properly. The salvage yard near me has quite a few ...

I have used them to supply vacuum to the brake booster on Hot Rods with big, overlap camshafts.

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You might want to take a look at some of the vacuum pumps listed on this GM motorhome web site.

http://gmcmotorhome.info/addens.html

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