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HQ Pete 03-30-2002 04:42 PM

valve stem seals
 
Hello,i have 2 small problems and they go like this.i'm rebuilding a sbc 350 and i'm up to putting the heads back together and i don't no weither to use umbreller type valve stem seals or the o-ring type is one better for lubrication of the guides?or is oil down the guides bad ?.Second problem is that the heads came with washers under the original springs ,i presume i won't be needing them if i have new springs ? i get a installed spring height of 1.720" without them. Everything is new or rebuilt and i want to do it right cause its my baby :D it will be a daily driver ,any comments will be greatly appriecated thanks Pete.

these are #041 heads,new guides (bronze inserts),10:1 compression, 214/224@.050, .444/.467 lift 1500-5500 ,lt1 springs.

4 Jaw Chuck 03-30-2002 05:34 PM

This just an opinion OK.

I have used the umbrella type with no problems whatsoever, the racing o-ring type keep less oil out if you are running loose clearances such as you would use for racing. The valve guide needs to be machined for them but if you have solid bronze inserts they will probably fit right on. I like the umbrella for the street as they lubricate the guide more and work just fine.

Your valve springs should have a pound rating for the height you have, if not take one down to your local engine builder and have one pressure checked at that height and also with the washer at that height. Make sure you have the height dimension with you that they would be at under full lift, check them at that height also. Now you have to decide if you need the extra spring pressure that the washer would provide. I doubt it.

I would check every valve for installed height because when the seats are ground they could be anywhere. Check for coil bind while your at it. You really should install one head to make sure everything will line up and there is no clearance problems with everything installed, check to make sure your rockers are not running off the valve stem or binding on the rocker post. Push rod lengths should be checked as well.

This is where a lot of beginner engine builders make mistakes, it really pays to mock up the engine dry to check out the valve train, especially if you have shaved the heads, decked the block etc.

To save time you can just mock one cylinder with valves installed with some light dummy springs just make sure to torque the heads down to get accurate readings. It may seem like overkill but at least you will know. The cam you have is not all that radical so I don't expect you will run into any problems.

HQ Pete 04-02-2002 12:04 AM

thanks for the advice 4jawchuck , i'm going with the umbrella type seals. As for the valve springs ,i checked there preasure buy hanging 45kg(95/105LB) off them and then measured there height(seat preasure) and then 120kg(260/275LB) and measured there height(full lift) ,these are the cam manuafacturers preasures and they worked out for my installed height and full lift height(+ or - a kg or so) so everything is going to plan at this stage, thanks again.


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